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Sat Mar 17, 2012 12:59 pm by DropYourSocks

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%Slavery% - OpEd by DYS

The true nature of what is happening in the world today is radically simple. It follows a short history with very few turns along the way. In fact, it is deceptively straight forward.

What is happening today is the conquest for control of the world. It is being waged by one family, the Rothschilds. The only thing that stands between them and world domination is Islam. It’s for this reason that the State of Israel was created by Baron Rothschild with the Balfor Declaration in 1917. It was a major step forward in the war for global domination which needed to see the fall of Islam to be successful. As we know today, the drums of war against Iran are beating loudly in Israel.

Why Islam? Because the weapon the Rothschilds are using for world domination is usury. Usury is forbidden under Islamic Shiriah law. What is usary? Quite simply, usury is the charging of interest on loans. For an explanation on why it is forbidden, simply look at how interest on loans is being used to dominate the world today. The Federal Reserve and ECB are doling out new, freshly printed bail-out cash which throws countries deeper and deeper in to debt, and the interest on these loans is not repayable. It will never be repayable. That is the point of usary. By design, it is a weapon.

How does it work? It’s simple. Imagine, for a moment, that all the money in the world equals $1.00. This is the total amount of cash in circulation. There is no more. You go to a bank and ask for a loan of $1.00. They give you the loan at 5% interest. So, you need to return the dollar, plus an additional $0.05. However, this $0.05 does not exist. After all, there is only $1.00 in the world. So, the bank creates another $1.00, so you can pay back the $0.05 you owe. But what just happened? When the bank created the second dollar, the value of your first dollar was cut in half. You just lost 50% of the value of your dollar so that you could pay back $0.05.

It’s a lose-lose game for you and a win-win game for the banks. If you don’t pay back the loan (because they refuse to create more dollars) they take your property. If you do pay back the loan (because they create more dollars) the value of your dollar goes down. There is only one of two outcomes with usary: 1) you will lose all your property by default, or 2) your money will be reduced in value. In the end, lose-lose for you, win-win for them.

So, are there any banks that give loans that don’t use usary? Yes. These are Islamic banks. With the Islamic banking system, you pay for the loan but not with interest, it’s more like a service charge. It’s a flat fee. There is no ability to compound the interest and have things get out of control. Under this system, money cannot make more money. Under the Islamic system, the US would not be paying $1T a year in interest on its federal debt.

Now, let’s tie this in to the current events. In 2009 Iranian banks accounted for about 40 percent of total assets of the world's top 100 Islamic banks. Iran holds the world's largest level of Islamic finance assets valued at $235.3bn which is more than double the next country in the ranking with $92bn. Six out of ten top Islamic banks in the world are Iranian. For the Islamic banking system to fail, Iran must fall.

As you know, all of the central banks in the world are Rothschild controlled. Every country in the world, save three, has a Rothschild controlled central bank in power. The method being used to take offer the world is by throwing all the nations of the world in to debt, using usary. To this system, Iran is the only remaining threat. It is the last block to fall. With the fall of Iran, the Islamic banking system will fall as well, and the world will plunge in to the grasp of %slavery%.

Sat Mar 17, 2012 3:35 pm by ExMislTech

Interest is one aspect of the theft.

The other more esoteric aspect is the fractional reserve aspect.

For every dollar they have on their books, they can create $9 more out of "thin air".

This is often referred to as a bank's Texas Ratio.

http://bankimplode.com/list/troubledbanks.htm

When you see a bank with a 2,000 % Texas ratio that means they ran Amok
and loaned out 20 times what they had as deposits.

This is also why there are 349 in the red zone and 101 in the orange zone,
and another 110+ in the yellow zone.

This list is only this long if they are 100% telling the truth about everything.

Think about that for a second...

it is only "this bad" if everything at every one of the banks is 100% honest in its recording.

I think we can all say that there is at least "some" ...."creative accounting" at a few of
the banks that did not make the list, and its worse than what the list shows because
some "issues" have been hidden via "creative accounting" such as was done with Enron,
and a slew of other legal fictions that ended up being exposed.

At the end of the day it just ends up as a giant ponzi scheme.

The Weiss weakness list is a list that has 2,700+ banks rated as D+ or lower...

http://shtf411.com/the-walking-dead-the-dying-banks-list-t553.html

There are a few videos in the video section that go in depth into explaining the
level of this fraud of "fractional reserve".

One is "money as debt" and another is "Zeitgeist Addendum", "money masters" is
good but most ppl do not want to commit 3.5 hrs to watch it.

http://shtf411.com/money-as-debt-t783s100.html

http://shtf411.com/zeitgeist-the-movie-remastered-p600.html#p600

http://shtf411.com/the-money-masters-t1411.html

Zeitgeist is hated by christians for its anti religion message in Part 1 of the 1st movie,
but the other aspects of the movie are relevant and make sense to ppl.

Addendum is the 2nd movie, and it has less of a religion bashing tilt to it,
and goes deeply into the financial aspect of the federal reserve fraud system.

They really shot their message in the foot by choosing to bash religion in the
1st movie because most of the ppl on this planet believe in some form of religion.

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:46 pm by Forthetimebeing

I Like it, how does does one go about getting a housing loan from a islamist bank then ?
I dont care what your god is long as the price is right

I paid my bank more than 15k just in interest last year.

In fact where are they in nz, probably banned from setting up shop I guess

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:48 pm by Vertumnus123

great topic DYS :star5:

good job guy's, this is the kind of information that need's to be propagated to the max. this is the kind of information that should galvanize us against these elitist pig's who control the system. lot's of good info here thank's... :drunks:

Sat Mar 17, 2012 5:57 pm by DropYourSocks

Forthetimebeing wrote:I Like it, how does does one go about getting a housing loan from a islamist bank then ?
I dont care what your god is long as the price is right

I paid my bank more than 15k just in interest last year.

In fact where are they in nz, probably banned from setting up shop I guess

I found this online directory.

http://shariah-fortune.com/islamic-finance-directory

Sat Mar 17, 2012 7:13 pm by Forthetimebeing

They got a foot in the door

Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi UFJ, LTD., Auckland Branch.

cant find out anything more. no web site.

Standard and poors have given them an A+ though

Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:46 pm by WhatzitToya

Vertumnus123 wrote:great topic DYS good job guy's, this is the kind of information that need's to be propagated to the max. this is the kind of information that should galvanize us against these elitist pig's who control the system. lot's of good info here thank's...

I completely agree... this is the type of information we need to concentrate on instead of being distracted by the media's red herrings (contraception, anyone?)...

:star5:

to DYS for striking at the root while most people get tangled up in the branches of evil...

I also agree with Ex's assessment of Zeitgeist... they gave themselves a bad rap with the religion bashing... nevertheless the movies are a good watch, same for Money Masters...

I'd like to add that fractional reserve banking and interest on loans is one of the methods that they use to enslave us... the other methods are laws and wars... Also, while the Rothschilds are leading the charge they are not acting alone and have a whole sleuth of agents everywhere, mostly in the American and British government...

I'd like to second Vert's comments and say that we need to have more discussions like this one so that: the root of the problem is clearly identified and propagated, and so that we can then come up with practical solutions for defeating the beast's majors heads: banking, government, military/police... Mass disobedience would go a long way but the masses must first cut through the fog of propaganda (Islam/Iran are evil, etc.).

Check out how TPTB screwed Germany with unpayable debt here: how-hitler-defied-the-bankers-t19624-p153093.html#p153093
The last payment was made in 2010, after Germany defaulting several times and interest being adjusted a number of times.

Also, checkout "The Red Dragon - or London Money Power" by L.B. Woolfolk. His book, which is dated 1890, was banned by TPTB. Here's another link.

:star5:

Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:02 pm by Nemesis2012

I think most educated and awake folk know how and why Israel was established. It actually goes back to the late 19th century but you are correct about the Balfour declaration. Good post! :coolthumb:

One other minor point DYS. You spelled usury correctly at first but then mispelt it after that. Sorry to be such a stick in the mud. :disguise2:

Sun Mar 18, 2012 10:49 am by PANTHERAS

Sorry for the long post and religiousness of the below... i think its relevant however

The Evil of Usury

The extraction of usury is "one of the oldest professions of man." (Forrest M. Smith, III, The Regulation of Interest: Practice and Procedure, 10 ST. MARY'S L. REV. 825, 1979). First came the Temple Priests, then the Goldsmiths and the commercial bankers of today. The first use of the fractional reserve system was in the Temple of Shamash under Hammurabi -- the sixth king of Babylon (Peter Cook, FEDERAL RESERVE FRACTIONAL RESERVE AND INTEREST-FREE GOVERNMENT CREDIT EXPLAINED 4, 1991).

The ecclesiastical doctrine of interest was the greatest obstacle to modern banking. It was primarily based upon 1) Aristotle's condemnation of interest as an unnatural breeding of money by money, 2) Christ's (supposed) condemnation of interest (Luke 6:34) and the reaction of the Fathers of the Church against commercialism and usury in Rome. (Will Durant, THE AGE OF FAITH 630, 1950). The moral condemnation of this ancient practice has been summarized: "It comes as news to most people to learn that practically all important ethical teachers -- Moses, Aristotle, Jesus, Mohammed, and Saint Thomas Aquinas, for instance -- have denounced lending at interest as usury and as morally wrong" (Lawrence Dennis, "The Squirrel Cage of Debt," Saturday Review of Literature 661, June 24, 1933).

Interest comes from the Latin verb "intereo" meaning to be lost. F.W. Maisel at 141, The ancient Israelites called usury "a bite." It is like the slow poison of a serpent: "Usury does not all at once destroy a man or nation with, as it were, a bloody gulp. Rather, it slowly, sometimes nearly imperceptibly, subverts the victim's constitution until he cannot prevent the fatal consequences even though he knows what is coming." Mooney, p. 23. The practice of lending to an enemy was "as a means of destroying him" (Jno. H. Kimmons, Usury: What Is It, and Does the Law of God Forbid It? 163, Undated).

The Old Testament "classes the usurer with the shedder of blood, the defiler of his neighbor's wife, the oppressor of the poor, the spoiler by violence, the violator of the pledge, the idolater, and pronounces the woe upon them, that they who commit these iniquities shall surely die." Id. at 2. The usurer was put in the same category with extortioners, Sabbath-breakers, those who vex the fatherless and widows, dishonor parents and accept bribes (Ezekiel 22). Id. at 17. The usurer was also classed with the liar, the unrighteous, the backbiter, the slanderer and perjurer, and denied the right to inherit the New Jerusalem (Psalm 15). Id. The usurer is further classed with the meanest and lowest of men and the vilest of criminals (Ezekiel 18). Id.

Solomon gave us the proverb, "the borrower is servant to the lender." Id. at 15.

Usury was the basis for Jesus's calling the money changers thieves: "The commerce of the world is conducted on principles as much at variance with the teachings of the master, as are the practices of a sneak thief or burglar. So the Master taught, as with whip of cords, he indignantly drove its representatives, from the sacred precincts of the Temple, denouncing them as thieves. Every well-informed mind knows that the money changers in the Temple, on that startling occasion, were at the very center of the Jewish Banking system, and of the pitiless and grinding commerce of Palestine." Id. at 19.

In Jesus' parable on the subject of usury (Matthew 25:26-27; Luke 19:22-23) "only the hard, austere man, one whose conscience will not interfere with his reaping where he has not sown, and taking up where he has not laid down, would extract usury, for he makes the lord of the parable tell the servant of it: You say I am a hard and austere man, then why did you not act accordingly, and earn me my usury as my nature demanded?" Id. at 3.

Assuming there is a stranger exception, "where is the authority for the practice of usury on our brethren?" Id. at 3. The taking of interest is "subversive of the principles of a sound state policy, contrary to good morals, and opposed to the teaching of God's Word." Id. at 10. The meaning of "usury" has been changed "to mean exhorbitant interest.

The Apostle Peter publicly told his vision: "And in another lake, full or pitch and blood and more bubbling up, there stood men and women on their knees: and these were usurers and those who had taken interest. . ." Antinicene Fathers, Vol. IX, p. 146. The Apostle Paul, in telling his vision, said: "And I saw another multitude of men and women, and worms consumed them. But I lamented and sighing asked the angel and said, 'Who are these?' And he said to me: These are those who exacted interest ON interest, and trusted in their riches and did not hope in God that He was their helper." Antinicene Fathers, Vol. IX, p. 160.

A long-existing and self-perpetuating tax-immune internationalist-transnationalist group uses fronts with inter-locking corporate and or fraternal group of individuals, whose membership is either secret or semi-secret, with undisclosed ownership shares, has usurped the sovereignty of borrowing national governments (who serve their lenders). It includes largely unrevealed yet reported campaign contributors who also control the media and press, all major political parties, and dictates presidential appointments. It abhors the direct issuance of money by elected officials and through the creation of a system of privately-owned and controlled central banks, holds all of the world's gold and all loan and mortgage paperwork.

Its business is conducted in secret meetings which determine the future of all national economies and the timing of expansion (through loans) or contraction (through no loans). It exercises an exclusive monopoly of the issuance of money created out of thin air and issued solely as debt, does not create money to repay the interest, and lives off perpetual national debts that consume future income and under international law cannot be repudiated even by an internal political revolution. At least for others, it tends to be pro-bureaucracy, pro-abortion/population control, pro-government education, anti-family, anti-nationalist, anti-inheritance, anti-private property and anti-Jesus Christ. This group can demand special privileges and even military force to collect "national" debts.

It plans to soon accomplish global disarmament (of both civilians and nations) and have a monopoly on force (including nuclear weapons). It has the privilege of a guaranteed untaxable income enforced by liens on all public and personal property and collected by the coercive force of the taxing structure of the various governments. The basis for its continued existence is continued usury and unforgiving collection of all debts resulting from committing the highest crime of usury.

source: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/usury2.htm

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:01 am by PANTHERAS

The Greek philosophers wrestled with the question of whether money can be lent at interest. Most notably, Aristotle concluded that it could not. Aristotle defined money as a good that was consumed by use. Unlike houses and fields, which are not destroyed by use, money must be spent to be used. Therefore, as we cannot rent food, so we cannot rent money. Moreover, money does not reproduce. A house or a flock can produce new value by use, so it is not unreasonable to ask for a return on their use. Money, being barren, should not, therefore, be expected to produce excess value. Thus, interest is unnatural.

source: http://eh.net/encyclopedia/article/jones.usury

Sun Mar 18, 2012 8:18 pm by WhatzitToya

@PANTHERAS

Great posts, Pantheras! :coolthumb:

There's a reason why some of the great men in history have stood against usury and fractional reserve lending and why they are subsequently vilified, marginalized, and downplayed...

Again, this is the kind of information that needs to be propagated, spread all over the place... it needs to be REPEATED over and over... those who manipulate the masses through propaganda understand this principle very well: repetition works... the reason why you hated that commercial when it first aired but can't get it out of your mind now...

I can't stress this enough, this is the type of information we ought to discuss on a regular basis... I've observed that the truther/awakened movement likes to discuss more the "new" state of the game and the "new doomsday" prediction... Sometimes there is a condescending attitude when the information that matters is brought up: "didn't you know that already?" "That's old news... it's three days old... we are busy trying to predict which nation is going to be bombed next so we can tell you, see?, I told you so..."

When I was a Toastmaster, I was taught that you had to make your point three times in your speech to drive it home... again, repetition...

So I would like to encourage all my friends here to continue to repeat themselves... say it a thousand times: centralized banking and fractional reserve lending have the nations and citizens of the world enslaved... they bought the governments and the military so they can use FORCE if you decide to default... these are the REAL enemies that we must fight... defeat them and a lot of our social issues will melt away (unemployment, poverty, social stratification, wars, hunger, etc.).

Let's spread some memes! End the Fed!

Sun Mar 18, 2012 11:18 pm by Nemesis2012

END THE FED!!! ...ad infinitum

How's that mate? :w00t:

Mon Mar 19, 2012 12:57 am by WhatzitToya

Nemesis2012 wrote:END THE FED!!! ...ad infinitum

How's that mate?

LOL!

Mon Mar 19, 2012 3:20 am by Sancho

End The Fed, Fractional Reserve Banking, and Allow The People Their Own Currency!!!

Mon Mar 19, 2012 9:48 pm by WhatzitToya

Sancho wrote:End The Fed, Fractional Reserve Banking, and Allow The People Their Own Currency!!!

LOL!

Great!

I just hope the meme makes it past this thread...!

Strategic Applications of Classical Conditioning

Three basic concepts derive from classical conditioning: repetition, stimulus generalization, and stimulus discrimination

1. Repetition works by increasing the strength of the association and by slowing the process of forgetting.

a) After a certain number of repetitions retention declines.
b) This effect is known as advertising wear out and can be decreased by varying the advertising messages.
c) Wear out may be avoided by varying the message through cosmetic variation or substantive variation.

Mon May 07, 2012 8:29 pm by DropYourSocks

I am going to be writing my next opinion article in a few days, if anyone has a suggestion for topic? I have some ideas, but I thought it would be fun to ask.

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