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The missing Nazis Bunker: S-III

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Jonastal is an area of Germany that received a lot of attention near the end of WW2. There is some belief that this area housed a giant underground Nazis base for designing and building equipment for the war effort. The official name of the project is S-III (Sonderbauvorhaben III). Occasionally the base is described by the name Ohrdruf, a town near where it was located.

The official story is that 25,000 labourers where taken from the Buchenwald concentration camp in November 1944 to March 1945. They spent there time excavating 25 buildings into the ground, the total length of the buildings was about 2.3 km combined length. A different set of records claim it was only 18,000 labourers, the larger number came from the Buchenwald camp records seized at the end of the war.

A drawing of the 25 tunnels/buildings/bunkers
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Several experts have stated that the maximum number of workers who could have worked on these 25 tunnels at one time is about 500. Anymore would have gotten in each others way. So what were the remaining “workers” used for? A interesting theory is that there were other bunkers being built. As Patton’s army secured the area a member of his staff Colonel R. Allen reported a facility there as:

The underground installations were amazing. They were literally subterranean towns. There were four in and around Ohrdruf: one near the horror camp, one under the Schloss, and two west of the town. Others were reported in near-by villages. None were natural caves or mines. All were man-made military installations. The horror camp had provided the labour. An interesting feature of the construction was the absence of any spoil. It had been carefully scattered in hills miles away. The only communication shelter, which is known, is a two floor deep shelter, with the code "AMT 10".
Over 50 feet underground, the installations consisted of two and three stories several miles in length and extending like the spokes of a wheel. The entire hull structure was of massive reinforced concrete. Purpose of the installations was to house the High Command after it was bombed out of Berlin. This places also had paneled and carpeted offices, scores of large work and store rooms, tiled bathrooms with bath tubs and showers, flush toilets, electrically equipped kitchens, decorated dining rooms and mess halls, giant refrigerators, extensive sleeping quarters, recreation rooms, separate bars for officers and enlisted personnel, a moving picture theatre, and air-conditioning and sewage systems.


Of interest is the fact that this was just one of many underground facilities described in the reports of American troops moving into the area. The spoked facility is never heard from again and is believed by many to have been sealed by the Americans.
There is a version of the sealing up story that claims Patton allowed 3000 SS troops and there families to enter the complex and be sealed inside rather than have them be arrested. This story claims that he was ordered to allow them to hide out as part of a deal to give the US military technology. The source of this version of the story is a book by Henry Stevens called “Hitler's Suppressed and Still-Secret Weapons, Science and Technology”. I can find no other source of this story that isn’t quoting this source.
Many of the villagers living in the area claimed something in this bunker caused engines to die and electrical equipment to fail. A bit of a mystery surrounds this site as it appears the allies never took observation photographs of the area or attempted to bomb it even though it appeared as a SS area in US war documents. The allies knew something was going on in a big way but never sent even a scout plane over it.

Several reports claim the reason the allies never flew over it was because of the mysterious device.

http://greyfalcon.us/Located%20near%20Ohrdruf.htm

If the structure was built like a wheel, the Führer headquarters would logically be at the hub, and Amt 10 was at the hub. Allen's description of Amt 10 as having two floors on April 1945 conflicts with the evidence of two persons who worked there: one hinted that there were more than two floors, the other testified there were three. The latter witness also stated that Amt 10 was two great bunkers of the same size, each of three floors, but not connected except by underground piping. Each bunker was guarded on each level by an SS sentry and passes for each entrance were not common to both. The most likely explanation is that the second bunker was constructed in 1944 at the same time as a third level was added to the first Amt 10 bunker as the Führer-suite.
As regards the second bunker, a witness stated that in 1944 there was an installation below the Ohrdruf Truppenübungsplatz which created an electro-magnetic field capable of stopping the engines of a conventional aircraft at seven miles. During the war, the Allies never photographed Ohrdruf from the air, nor bombed it, even though their spies must have assured them it was crawling with SS and scientific groups. A German electro-magnetic field which interfered with their aircraft at altitudes of up to seven miles is admitted by a 1945 United States Air Force Intelligence document . The USAF suspected that it was a device to bring down their bombers, but it obviously had some other purpose, or it would have been operating below Berlin.
Many Arnstadt witnesses described occasions when electrical equipment and automobile engines cut out. They always knew when this was about to happen, for the ship's diesel engine at Amt 10 would smoke. A diesel motor is not affected by an electro-magnetic field. In 1980, Russians scientists were still able to measure the field on their equipment, but they were never able to identify the source.
A technician, who was interrogated after the war, told the tribunal that there was a power supply that needed no fuel and the diesel units where only for emergency backup. Another witness claimed shortly after the war that they had been told by someone at the base that there was a Tesla energy device. Many of the locals in the villages reported that there were weird electrical discharges across the ground of the valley. Some of these have continued to be sighted to this day. Also electrical devices occasionally fail temporarily across the valley and cell phones seem to sporadically fail in the area. Some researchers believe that this is because the power supply is still buried underground and the Germans sealed it away prior to the allies arriving in the area. Some believe that the power supply used is still functioning intermittently. The Russians spent many years searching the area and never finding the source of the magnetic fields in the are and the odd discharges.


In March 1945 a new type of explosive was tested that killed 200 inmates and 20 guards due to an accident in sizing the explosive. Evidently the explosive was a “waxy substance”, coal dust and liquid oxygen. The surviving documents say that the base explosive of dust and liquid oxygen as a conventional bomb destroyed all items out to about 600-900 meters. This is comparable with a fuel air explosive. The tests of the explosive with the “waxy substance”, also known as a reagent increased the explosive affect such that 4.5 km of area was destroyed.


The report states that during 1944, an explosive mixture of 60% liquid air and 40% finely powdered coal dust invented by Dr. Mario Zippermayr was tested at Doeberitz explosives ground near Berlin, and was found to be very destructive over a radius of up to 600 metres.
Waffen-SS scientists then became involved and added some kind of waxy substance to the explosive. The bombs had to be filled immediately prior to the aircraft taking off. Bombs of 25 and 50 kgs were dropped on Starnberger See and photos taken. Standartenführer Klemm showed these to Brandt (Himmler's scientific adviser). The intensive explosion covered an area up to 4.5 kms radius.
This waxy substance was a reagent of some kind which was said to interact with air during the development of the explosion, causing it to change its composition and so create meteorological change in the atmosphere. A lightning storm at ground level consumes all the available oxygen. Göering's statement upon his arrest in May 1945 is significant: he claimed to have led a revolt against Luftwaffe use of a bomb "which could have destroyed all civilisation." The bomb was not a nuclear weapon, and it appears to have been a conventional explosive which used a reagent or catalyst produced by Tesla methodology or similar for its inexplicable effect.


There is a suggestion that the reagent was in fact made with Uranium Oxide as part of it’s basic mixture. This could mean the peculiar lead tubes lined with gold foil and supposedly filled with Uranium Oxide that were seized when U-234 surrendered at the end of the war. A Lt. was responsible for the interrogation of the members of the U-boats crew. In one note that was released under the freedom of information act request the interrogator commented that a FKpt Falk had received special training on the contents of the containers prior to them sailing from Germany. A researcher who has been looking into the location of FKpt Falk had this to say.

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=57853&sid=38b91394ff3788d1341b04702a9f71ff&start=15
since before the war 200 SS scientists had been researching Earth Sciences in an underground laboratory at Stechowitz on the Czech border, and what all these scientists discovered is unknown. The Waffen-SS Pionierschule was near Stechowitz: at the end of the war all lower grade technicians and SS men there were executed by a Wehrmacht death squad under a Major Lange. Besides Ohrdruf, there was a similar underground centre working on Aryan plasma physics at Waldenburg in Poland. Here too, at the end of the war, even German staff were murdered. This information came to light from the recently declassified depositions in the case of The Polish People v Jakob Sporrenberg, an SS-Obergruppenguehrer charged with the 62 murders.

The search for a conventional German atomic weapon will never bear fruit. The last search made for FKpt Falk or Falck was 1999 when I was member of a forum of scientists and writers investigating the U-234 mystery. All crew members and passengers aboard U-234 except Falk were returned eventually to Germany. Falk was kept segregated from the other passengers while in captivity. The report on his interrogation states that he was relaxed and talked freely. The Office of the Wehrmacht Fallen and the German land authority controlling the return of PoWs from abroad have both reported no trace of FKpt Falk. An American lawyer who ran the 1999 forum stated his opinion that it would not be possible to release an alien prisoner into the United States without some documentation. Even under the Freedom of Information Act the United States authorities have managed to avoid answering the question as to his whereabouts after 26 May 1945. Lt Pfaff was still alive two years ago. After unloading the ten containers from U-234 for them, he was sworn to silence by the US authorities and immediately awarded US citizenship, as was the boatswain who assisted him, Schoelch. From this, it seems logical to deduce EITHER that Falk knew too much and could not be allowed to live with the information OR he was offered the same deal as Pfaff and Schoelch and refused it, his murder then ensuing.




Also of interest is that:
On April 17, 1945, the United States Atomic Energy Commission inspected various underground workings at Ohrdruf, and removed technical equipment before dynamiting surface entrances. The US authorities have classified all 1945 documents relating to Ohrdruf for a minimum period of 100 years.


There is some theories that Jonastal was home to the Nazis attempt to build an atomic bomb.

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On of the other facilities in the area was a salt mine that the Nazis sealed up after filling with priceless artifacts. The artifacts where 100’s of valuable paintings and 250 million dollars worth of gold bars. Patton took General Dwight D. Eisenhower to see the artifacts on April 12th 1945. Below are two pictures of Eisenhower viewing the artifacts.

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The Americans removed much material from these facilities and some of the 25 little ones where used by the Russians when they took over the area as bases until the 1980’s. After the re-unification of Germany the new German Gov’t put a moratorium on digging in this area or any excavations. Currently all have been sealed up and some are no longer even known as to where they were.

The following are pictures of some of the entrances into the S-III facility.
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Other sources of information
http://www.ssp-exploration.de/the_jonastal_project.htm

This site talks about the ongoing work of the German Military to keep “treasure seekers” out of the area.
Http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.tour-de-ost.de/news/news.php%3Fnewsid%3D515&ei=ebkpS7nTLc7vlAek4dWaBw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CDAQ7gEwCTgU&prev=/search%3Fq%3DJonastal%2Bbunker%26hl%3Den%26rls%3Dcom.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox%26rlz%3D1I7SUNA_en%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20


These three pages talk about a slightly smaller facility built around the same time in Poland
Page 1 http://www.warsawvoice.pl/view/2878
Page 2 http://www.warsawvoice.pl/view/5218
Page 3 http://www.warsawvoice.pl/view/7444
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 9:55 pm

Re: The missing Nazis Bunker: S-III

Information on the capture of the U-234


EXCERPTS FROM WAR DIARY OF THE U.S.S. SUTTON (DE 771) (cont'd).

14 May (cont'd) 14 May (cont'd) & 15 May 1945

At 1436 our HF/DF operator intercepted a PCS report from U-234 on a bearing of 175. Set an intercept course at flank speed and proceeded to intercept U-234. Two subsequent PCS reports from U-234 indicated that we were on a collision course throughout this run.
The Canadian PF's headed directly for the U-234's original reported position, then apparently decided they had missed their target and when last heard from were disappearing on course 075.
At 2024 our radar picked up a target at 18000 yards proceeding on U-boats course and speed. At 2141 overtook target and identified her as U-234. Changed her course at 250 and escorted her for the rest of the night at eight knots.
Positions:
0800: 48°55'N, 39°41'W
1200: 48°49'N, 42°23'W
2000: 47°24'N, 41°52'W

15 May

Escorting U-234 to Casco Bay, Maine, in compliance with CinCLant's 121322.
At 0807 the U-234 was stopped and at 0823 the SUTTON's armed guard, consisting of three officers and thirteen men, boarded her. A letter of instructions (enclosure (D)) was presented to the Commanding Officer for signature and the provisions of Allant 20 were complied with. By 1150 thirty-seven prisoners, including the Commanding Officer, Kapitanleutnant Johann Heinrich Fehler, and General der Flieger Ulrich Kessler of the Luftwaffe, had been transferred to the SUTTON. A complete list of U-234's crew and passengers will be found in enclosure (E). Resumed escorting in company with USCG FORSYTHE (PF 102), which had joined during the boarding operations.
The following pertinent facts about the U-234 are submitted herewith:

1. She left Kristiansand on 15 April bound for Japan.
2. She carried eleven passengers who were the first installment of a Diplomatic-Military
Mission to Japan. They were:

KESSLER, Ulrich General der Flieger
VON SANDRART, Fritz Oberst
MENZEL, Erich Oberleutnant der Luftwaffe
FALCK, Gerhard Fregattenkapitan
NIESCHLING, Kay Geschwaderrichter
SCHLICKE, Heinz Dr.Ing.Senderfuhrer Korvetten Kapt (MN)
HELLENDOORN, Heinrich Oberleutnant Zur See
RUF, Franz Civilian
BRINGENWALD, Civilian
Two Japanese officers who are reported to have killed themselves with luminol when they heard of the U-boat's intentions to surrender. Their bodies had been disposed of prior to capture.



3 T.W. NAZRO









EXCERPTS FROM WAR DIARY OF THE U.S.S. SUTTON (DE 771) (cont'd).

15 May (cont'd) 15 May (cont'd) thru 17 May 1945

3. She was reported to have a valuable cargo of war instruments, plans, and documents which were secured in the cargo hatches.
4. After hearing the news of the diplomatic break between Japan and Germany the Commanding Officer waited five days before surrendering. He considered the possibility of going to Argentina instead.
5. When captured, she had seven torpedoes and large quantities of AA ammunition on board.
6. At no time since their capture have the Germans on the SUTTON, or on the U-234, been anything but cooperative. Doktor Walter assisted the doctor of the PF 102 in a difficult abdominal operation on one of the SUTTON's men.
Positions:
0800: 46°40'N, 44°55'W
1200: 46°38'N, 45°03'W
2000: 46°11'N, 46°58'W

16 May

Escorting U-234 to Casco Bay in compliance with CinCLant's 121322. USCG FORSYTHE (PF 102) accompanying.
At 1250 FORSYTHE left the formation as directed by CinCLant.
Positions:
0800: 45°26'N, 50°00'W
1200: 45°15'N, 50°48'W
2000: 44°41'N, 52°33'W

17 May

Escorting U-234 to Portsmouth, New Hampshire, in compliance with CinCLant 160414.
At (*) 0315 USS CARTER (DE 112) and USS MUIR (DE 770) joined the formation. CTG 22.13 on CARTER assumed duties of OTC and disposed CARTER on starboard bow. MUIR on starboard quarter, SUTTON on port beam of U-234.
Positions:
0800: 43°57'N, 55°28'W
1200: 43°37'N, 56°56'W
2000: 43°06'N, 59°10'W

(*) Zone plus 2 hours 30 minutes,

T.W. NAZRO

http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-1228SuttonWarDiary.htm


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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 10:41 pm

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Wow Exile,

That is SO cool! :star5: :star5: :star5: :star5:

I think I bypassed something.

Were those the coordinates of the bunker tunnel opening? If so why can’t it be found now?

About the 500 workers at a time. Is it also possible that they never fed the prisoners for 3 months and they died, being replaced by 500 more and so on?

They probably wanted to save money on food knowing these guys were easily replaced. If they were building other tunnels, other than the 25 I wonder which direction they would be heading.?
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:19 pm

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Well the 25 are the ones in the pictures, they are mostly still oocatable since the entrances are shown in pics and they can be compared to the current terrain. It's the big spoked one that there are no pics off and it's the missing one. They are all in the same valley, which is now off limits as it's a military site. The co-ordinates in the second post are about the capture of U-234 and where they caught up to it.
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Post Mon Dec 21, 2009 11:45 pm

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It's definitely not a nuclear test site, that’s for sure. Where are the sleeping quarters?
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What sleeping quarters? The description is of a underground town with extensive bedrooms.
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Post Tue Dec 22, 2009 12:25 am

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Exile1981 wrote:What sleeping quarters? The description is of a underground town with extensive bedrooms.

I was looking for a sign of other things too like air passages or water piping, that sort of detail but that's probably pushing it. I'm curious is to how it all operated and to see if it was totally self sufficient.
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Exile1981 wrote:What sleeping quarters? The description is of a underground town with extensive bedrooms.


Very intriguing piece. Great work.

Perhaps I missed something, but the witnesses that claimed electronic failures and this ability to down planes at 7 miles. They also state that it was easily known when these failures would occur, because of smoke from the backup diesel generator. No one could find where the smoke was coming from?

Its fascinating because Tesla was talking about doing, and often testing, everything described in decades proceeding this. So none of it is too far fetched. I just don't understand how in the past they could tell when it would happen, and now they can't, even though there continues to be random failures of electronics? Or have they simply run out of diesel fuel?
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Post Tue Dec 22, 2009 1:34 am

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The comment about the diesel generator is from the war period. Depending on the story you believe there could be two theories as to what is going on. The generator hasn't been seen running in years.

1) The tunnels where sealed and the piece of equipment keeps randomly activating.

2) The SS are living down there and still experimenting with what ever caused the problem.

I read one site (got to love google translate) of a guy who has been sneaking in and exploring the area. He claims he found air shafts and when he dropped a flare down them they are very deep (hundred + feet). He also explored some of the 25 known tunnels which are not supposed to be connected to the missing spoked unit and many of them are sealed off.
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