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Destron Fearing IBM and the Holocaust and Covert Ops

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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:22 am

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Brilliant thread, SKL! I have been a fan of yours, and a friend, at that other place in the far off galaxy, some light years away. You never cease to amaze with the information you uncover and the references presented to substantiate your claims. Life has become one big shell game, as many have highlighted, were everything is twisted and contorted, to only perplex the rational mind into impotency, and to sequester our abilities of independent thought.

As for the IBM's role in the Holocaust, I have been aware of that, and have been absolutely mortified that such a business is in operation today! They aided and abetted the enemy in genocide with verifiable facts to prove it, and yet, they were able to escape prosecution for their crimes. The CEO's should have been at Nuremburg with the rest of the murders. It was their punch card system that help the Nazis industrialize mass murder.

The vipers were allowed to carry on as if nothing happened, and are now heading programs similar to the ones in the past, to get everyone documented and in a database. All this surveillance is mind numbing, and not as innocent, as they would want everyone to believe.This video is an IBM commercial, and downright evil, just watch it, and you will see how diabolical it really is, and pay close attention to the end as well. This is a mind game at its finest.


http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Deob532iEpqk

They are setting up a control grid and this no different than a farmer branding cattle. It is used as a means to locate. People should really take the time to honestly sit down close their lap tops and turn off their televisions to see what is going on. For example, the social security number is a brand given to everyone at birth and that number follows until death. Everything about a person can found with that number, where you live, banking, employment history, tax activities, and every other means to identify. If you look at the social security card, it says "Not to be used for identification purposes." However, for just about every transaction you make in life, it must be furnished as a personal identifier.

The big round-up will be soon, because the control grid is being perfected by new technologies in our so called information age. The foundation was set with how successful it was for Nazi Germany to liquidate millions of people with tacit support of companies doing business today. If people would only look outside the box, at what this group of sadistic individuals are doing, they would be appalled, and shocked by all of it. However, that can't happen, when people are pummeled by tabloid news, professional sports, materialism, ideologies, derision, religion, and every other means to lull and subdue the free-spirit that all of us have with in us. Everything listed in the aforementioned sentence, is a means to control and divert attention from the big plan. I am only echoing your sentiments in this thread and others I have commented on in other arenas. I can tell by the fountain of facts, you have spent countless hours dotting the I's and crossing the T's, but you can go to anyone with the information you have presented to us, and they will scoff at it, regardless of the facts. People believe what they want to believe. As they say, "Sometimes the truth hurts." Keep up the good work SKL!
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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:33 am

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SpartanKingLeonidas wrote:Paroxysm,

Nothing surprises me anymore, Hell it wouldn't surprise me in the least if Germany was the final parent company.

If I had known you knew anything I'd have gotten you on this thread sooner.

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I don't know much, but am more than capable of researching. I knew all about IBM in the holocaust, and am not the least bit surprised to find them bankrolling all of this.

For instance, heres some new findings in the last few minutes....It appears that IBM was completely bank rolling Applied Digital Solutions (Digital Angel) In the beginning of their endevours. It appears that IBM Was the primary creditor of ADS, until ADS paid them back with a $30 million dollar lumpsum in mid '03, and around that time ADS was sueing IBM over conditions of the repayment or something to that effect. I found court documents, so they are still out there if your interested in the legal speak regarding those court proceedings.

I first saw mention of IBM bankrolling ADS/Digital Angel on this Blog:
http://thankyouforlookingup.blogspot.co ... ichip.html
IBM Credit Corp. TODAY - IS THE FINANCIAL BACKER OF THE PARENT COMPANY OF VERICHIP, RFID. - APPLIED DIGITAL SOLUTIONS.




I needed more so I kept digging, and then is when I found all the court documents from ADS suing them and finally found this article:
Applied Digital Solutions Makes $30 Million Payment to IBM Credit, LLC, Satisfying All Outstanding Debt Obligations to IBM
Applied Digital Solutions Makes $30 Million Payment to IBM Credit, LLC, Satisfying All Outstanding Debt Obligations to IBM
Business Wire, June 30, 2003

Payment Improves the Company's Cash Flow and Liquidity -

Strengthens Net Worth and Shareholder Equity on Balance Sheet

Applied Digital Solutions, Inc. (Nasdaq: ADSX - News) an advanced technology development company, announced today that it has made a $30 million payment to IBM Credit, LLC, the Company's former senior secured creditor.

Under the Forbearance Agreement with IBM Credit (announced on March 27, 2003), the Company had the right to purchase all of its debt of approximately $95 million (including accrued interest) with a payment of $30 million by June 30, 2003. This $30 million payment, which was finalized today, satisfies in full the Company's debt obligations to IBM. In 2002, Applied Digital Solutions and Digital Angel Corporation (AMEX: DOC), which is majority owned by the Company, reported consolidated revenues of $99.6 million.

The payment to IBM Credit increases the Company's cash flow and liquidity. With this payment, the Company has also significantly strengthened shareholder equity on its balance sheet, increased its net worth, and eliminated the negative cash flow for IBM debt payments. The Company also expects to recognize a gain from the settlement of the IBM debt.

Simultaneous with the $30 million payment, the Company completed a $10.5 million, 8.5% convertible debenture transaction with an investor group. The investors can convert the debentures into shares of ADSX's common stock (subject, in part, to shareholder approval) or shares of common stock the Company already owns in Digital Angel Corporation. The fixed-price conversion feature represents a 5.0% premium based on current ADSX market prices, subject to dilution provisions. Subject to certain conditions, the regular interest (8.5% per annum) and amortization payments for the 29-month debentures (due June 29, 2006) may be made (at the Company's option) in cash or the shares the Company owns in DOC.

In addition, ADSX has granted warrants to the investors that are exercisable for approximately 5.35 million shares of ADSX's common stock, or 950,000 of the shares the Company owns in DOC, or a combination of shares from both companies. The exercise prices represent a 15% premium based upon current market prices, subject to dilution provisions. The warrants vest immediately and expire in June 2007.

"This IBM payment represents an important turning point for Applied Digital," commented Scott R. Silverman, Chairman and CEO. "In the most recent shareholder conference call and in our 2002 annual report, I referred to satisfaction of our debt obligations to IBM Credit as the first pillar of the Company's foundation for the future. Now that we have strengthened our capital structure, our priorities are to build on this foundation by achieving cash flow positive operating results and revenue growth through sales of our personal safeguard technologies, particularly Digital Angel(TM) and VeriChip(TM)."




Other related articles to the story above:

Applied Digital Solutions Files Suit against IBM Unit.

Applied Digital Solutions Must Pay $46.2 Million to Creditor.
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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:35 am

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VonHelman,

Thank you for the compliment.

I always suspected the kidnappings in Central and South America were Hispanic Government sponsored, just like our Identity Theft spree being outsourced to cut-outs of Government, meaning hired criminals (not far of a stretch, is it?).

The rise of the kidnapping's down there is a pattern I have been watching for years, as well as the Latin American cultures have a lot of taboos and and superstitions which is why the El Chupacabra is such a meaningless piece of crap to us, but they would take it more seriously.

El Chupacabra, the Goat Sucker is a superstition filled name, meaning similar to a boogeyman.

Man On Fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D2W9yoqs358c

Taken

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCvUxdQ4q-Lg

That explains as well the rise of Hollywood movies about this type of incident and Human Trafficking.

Quote from : Wikipedia : Human Trafficking

Human trafficking is the practice of people being tricked, lured, coerced or otherwise removed from their home or country, and then compelled to work with no or low payment or on terms which are highly exploitative.

The practice is considered to be trade or commerce in people, which has many features of slavery, and which is illegal in most countries.

The victims of human trafficking can be used in a variety of situations, including prostitution, forced labor (including bonded labor or debt bondage) and other forms of involuntary servitude. The sale of babies and children for adoption or other purposes is also considered to be trafficking in those children.

The Protocol to Prevent, Suppress and Punish Trafficking in Persons, especially Women and Children (also referred to as the Palermo Protocol) is a protocol to the United Nations Convention against Transnational Organized Crime and defines human trafficking as the "recruitment, transportation, transfer, harbouring or receipt of persons, by means of the threat or use of force or other forms of coercion, of abduction, of fraud, of deception, of the abuse of power or of a position of vulnerability or of the giving or receiving of payments or benefits to achieve the consent of a person having control over another person, for the purpose of exploitation."

As at September 2008, the Protocol has been signed by 117 countries, and there are 124 parties.

Human trafficking is the fastest-growing criminal industry in the world, with the total annual revenue for trafficking in persons estimated to be between USD$5 billion and $9 billion.

The Council of Europe states, "People trafficking has reached epidemic proportions over the past decade, with a global annual market of about $42.5 billion."

Trafficking victims typically are recruited using coercion, deception, fraud, the abuse of power, or outright abduction.

Human trafficking across international borders requires cooperation and collaboration between states if it is to be tackled effectively.

The OSCE (Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe), an ad hoc intergovernmental organization under the United Nations Charter, is one of the leading agencies fighting the problem of human trafficking, with an area of operation that includes North America, Europe, Russia, and Central Asia.


If the Government wanted to stop Human Trafficking it would have been stepping up things to crack down on overseas travel, or informing people a lot more.

Instead, it sits on it's laurels, letting it happen more, to give more statistical reasoning behind the false necessity of things like the biochip, in order to make money hand over fist many different ways.

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Post Tue Dec 01, 2009 1:50 am

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SKL, I might of missed it in the massive amount of information on the first few pages; did you already go over the facts of IBM bankrolling ADS/DigitalAngel/Verichip/DestronFearing, or is this new info to the thread?
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Jakes,

Glad to see you here.

Assuming we were discussing men, and how they stare at goats, last time we spoke on the other site?

I discovered the majority of this over on the other website, what solidified it though was finding Destron Fearing.

So, I revamped what I had already discovered and presented it under a different direction, taking a different direction altogether.

I stayed off of the "alien" forum over on the other site for the most part because I am "alien-agnostic", but this being a Secret Projects area, I have no problem posting here, I did have one thread with moderate success on the other site, refuting completely "alien involvement". I had not included I.B.M. and the Holocaust within it before though because I had not discovered the Destron Fearing angle, so maybe I will continue posting on that thread and dig it up some.

I suspect that I.B.M. was allowed to continue business because it would have been too embarrassing for our Federal Government to shut them down considering that at the same time this conglomerate was assisting the Nazis they were doing our Census here in America, working both sides against the middle in a sense, and potentially the Federal Government saw the uses of the technology without imagining, or giving a damn, about what America citizens would think. In many of the books I have read to research this information a lot of the Intelligence Agencies blackmailed themselves into power, so this could be a part of that scheme as well considering my opinion of Majestic 12 is not so much the "alien" angle anymore, more of a think-tank on how to scam America tax-money.

Within the book I.B.M. and the Holocaust the author speaks about the promise that the Social Security card was not supposed to be a national identity card, I remember my parents telling me of their parents bitching about that, and I remember being dragged down as a teenager by my mother to sign up to get a Social Security card, and now the moment children are born they are assigned a number with their birth certificate.

Real ID : A Real Nightmare

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D8XObbEwI6P4

Quote from : Wikipedia : Majestic 12

Majestic 12 (also known as Majic 12, Majestic Trust, M12, MJ 12, MJ XII or Majority 12) is the purported code name of a secret committee of scientists, military leaders, and government officials, supposedly formed in 1947 by an executive order of U.S. President Harry S Truman (which the FBI has concluded is "completely bogus").

The purpose of the committee was allegedly to investigate UFO activity in the aftermath of the Roswell incident - the purported crash of an alien spaceship near Roswell, New Mexico, in July 1947

This alleged committee is an important part of the UFO conspiracy theory of an ongoing government cover up of UFO information.


I have read quote a few books on the cover-ups and "alien" angle.

The Medusa File: Secret Crimes and Coverups of the U. S. Government

The True Story of the Bilderberg Group

Amazon Review :

Delving into a world once shrouded in complete mystery and impenetrable security, this investigative report provides a fascinating account of the annual meetings of the world’s most powerful people—the Bilderberg Group.

Since its inception in 1954 at the Bilderberg Hotel in the small Dutch town of Oosterbeek, the Bilderberg Group has been comprised of European prime ministers, American presidents, and the wealthiest CEOs of the world, all coming together to discuss the economic and political future of humanity.

The working press has never been allowed to attend, nor have statements ever been released on the attendees' conclusions or discussions, which have ramifications on the citizens of the world.

Using methods that resemble the spy tactics of the Cold War—and in several instances putting his own life on the line—the author did what no one else has managed to achieve: he learned what was being said behind the closed doors of the opulent hotels and has made it available to the public.

This second edition includes an entirely new chapter and updated information on topics such as an earlier attempt to break up Canada and the portents of a North American union.


The Day After Roswell

Library Journal : Amazon Review :

As the 50th anniversary approaches of the crash of a so-called extraterrestrial craft near Roswell, New Mexico, the UFO conspiracy theory is getting more attention.

These latest books approach Roswell from different perspectives but identical agendas.

Hesemann and Mantle are young UFO researchers who have visited Roswell and spent several years collecting documents and eyewitness testimony from people reputedly involved in either the crash recovery or its cover-up.

(Most of the eyewitnesses turn out not to be.)

The authors trade off chapters, with Hesemann using his anthropologist's training not only to tie the Roswell crash to Native American legends but to claim that Egyptian hieroglyphics and the Greek alphabet are directly related to the characters said to have adorned the crashed spacecraft's exterior.

Corso, a career military intelligence officer, claims to have managed myriad research projects throughout the 1950s connected to recovery of the Roswell craft.

Like Hesemann and Mantle, he asserts that the Cold War was a cover to develop "alien technology" that superpowers USA and USSR could not only use against the other but against the threat of extraterrestrial invasion.

The most memorable passage in either book, however, is Hesemann and Mantle's suggestion that President Clinton induced the warring parties to make peace in the Bosnian war only by showing them proof of that alien menace.

For public libraries convinced that pro-UFO books are needed for balance, the Hesemann and Mantle may be appropriate.

The Corso is only for the few special libraries that have made documenting the unconventional a collecting priority.?Scott H. Silverman, Bryn Mawr Coll. Lib., Pa.

Copyright 1997 Reed Business Information, Inc.


Top Secret/Majic: Operation Majestic-12 and the United States Government's UFO Cover-up

Amazon Review :

Top Secret/Majic is the result of nuclear physicist and renowned UFO investigator Stanton T. Friedman's twenty-one year search for the truth about the mysterious Operation Majestic 12, President Truman’s top-secret UFO investigation team.

In this updated edition of his landmark book, he tells the incredible tale of the July, 1947 recovery of a crashed flying saucer near Roswell, New Mexico, and the establishment by President Truman of a truly all-star cast to deal with the saucer and its non-human inhabitants.

The first four Directors of Central Intelligence, the first Secretary of Defense, and several outstanding scientists and military leaders were part of the team.

Through painstaking research and startling evidence—including documents that have never before been published—Friedman effectively exposes the U.S. government’s biggest-kept secret: a fifty-eight year UFO cover-up.


Think about the fact that Majestic 12 was never proven that the documentation found has been theorized for decades, it is just another piece of a smokescreen. The only other possibility like seen in the quote from Wikipedia above would be that this crap is real and many different Intelligence Agencies including the F.B.I. are covering it all up which would not surprise me in the least, although it still does not make me see "little green men".

Whether you agree with my assertions that there are no "aliens", or you believe in them, your choice, you will still notice the pervading pattern of cover-up, conspiracy, and fraud.

Unless otherwise stated, I have read every single book I ever posted on this thread and others, cross-referencing all of this stuff.

SKL :to_keep_order:
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Paroxysm wrote:SKL, I might of missed it in the massive amount of information on the first few pages; did you already go over the facts of IBM bankrolling ADS/DigitalAngel/Verichip/DestronFearing, or is this new info to the thread?


Paroxysm,

I did not get that far into the aspects of what I.B.M. did as far as financing.

Keep digging into it, please.

Have you ever been on the Securities and Exchange Commission website looking into the corporation's filings?

I have and some of that stuff is quite interesting, it is a Government website, so no F.O.I.A. request needed.

The funding for all of this would be quite interesting, knowing the sum total of all of their investments, just click SEARCH and enter the corporate name.

* Digital Angel Corporation (I searched Applied Digital Solutions, this came up)

* Digital Angel Trust

* Positive ID Corp (formerly Verichip)

* I.B.M. (about 7 corporations came up under that)

Now back when I had started digging through the S.E.C. website last year, I noticed Digital Angel and Verichip had the same exact corporate address, which is about two hours South of me.

I bought stock in both companies just to see what it would do and what information I would get through a prospectus.

I have since sold the majority of my shares keeping the smallest amount of shares but I saved those prospectus I got.

One of them was over 150 pages just in information that would make most people go blind reading the tiny fine print.

I believe once this system is implemented it may be the only way we're allowed to vote via these bio-chips, and as well if you own stock it may be one of the very few ways to stop the company unless planning a corporate takeover which would take trillions I do not have.

SKL :to_keep_order:
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darpa-testing-facebook-etc-for-civil-unrest-alerts-t2679.html


I think the above ties directly into what you have been saying about darpa
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Anarch wrote:http://shtf411.com/darpa-testing-facebook-etc-for-civil-unrest-alerts-t2679.html


I think the above ties directly into what you have been saying about darpa


Anarch,

Interesting thread.

I will invite him over to post more about that topic here.

I noticed his article was from the United Kingdom no less as well.

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SKL,

talk to the Penguin and ask him what I mentioned to him about the ACLU. :triniti:

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MissAFortiori wrote:SKL,

talk to the Penguin and ask him what I mentioned to him about the ACLU. :triniti:

As always.... :love:


MissA,

I will do that. :coolthumb:

Of course, much love to you too. :love:

I was just told yesterday that this thread is the fourth highest ranking thread.

Today it is up to second highest ranking thread.

:blink: Holy alien anal probing, Batman. :shifty:

:meh: Holy sheeple shearing sociopaths, Batman. :sheep:

:shocking: Holy ultimate electronic stalking system, Batman. :neo:

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I recently did a thread on immigration, both legal and illegal, focusing on the Border issues.

It bears on this thread both directly as well as indirectly.

Immigration Gumballs : Cover-Up, Suppression, and Brooming Away the Facts

Below is a quote from that thread.

Quote from : Immigration Gumballs : Cover-Up, Suppression, and Brooming Away the Facts

SpartanKingLeonidas wrote:If you have thoughts on illegal immigration and immmigration, this video will show you some hard facts presented by Roy Beck, an educated man on the rising numbers, according to the Census Bureau, he uses gumballs to represent 1 million people as immigrants, in regards to immigration issues.

Quote from :
Wikipedia : Illegal Immigration

Illegal immigration is the movement of people across national borders in a way that violates the immigration laws of the destination country.

Illegal immigrants are also known as illegal aliens to differentiate them from legal aliens.

In politics, the term may imply a larger set of social issues and time constraints with disputed consequences in areas such as economy, social welfare, education, health care, slavery, prostitution, legal protections, voting rights, public services, and human rights.

Conversely, Illegal emigration refers to unlawfully leaving a country.


Immigration Gumballs

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dn7WJeqxuOfQ


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Dont know if this has been addressed here

Source: Wired

Remember VeriChip, the Florida company that once dreamed of injecting its human-implantable RFID microchips in everyone from immigrant guest workers to prison inmates?

We haven’t heard much from the company since a dipping stock price nearly got it delisted from the NASDAQ in March. But it’s still alive, and in November it pulled off a seemingly incongruous acquisition. Now called PositiveID, the new company is a merger between VeriChip and Steel Vault, the people behind NationalCreditReport.com.

With a human-implantable microchip maker now running a credit-scoring and identity-theft-protection website, privacy activists are worried again. “The attraction to investors is the potential for synergies,” says Mark Rotenberg, executive director of the Electronic Privacy Information Center in Washington. “You have to anticipate over time there will be an attempt to integrate the services.”

“Sci-fi wise, you could have a chip read by a scanner that determines your credit-worthiness,” says Evan Hendricks, editor of Privacy Times. “Or you could have a credit card implant.”

VeriChip and its former owner Applied Digital have been drawing fire since 2004, when the FDA approved the rice-sized injectable RFID for human use. While the company primarily pushed the chip as part of a system to index medical records — a kind of subcutaneous MedAlert bracelet — Richard Sullivan, then-CEO of Applied Digital, had a penchant for wantonly confirming every nightmare of cybernetic social control.

After 9/11, it was Sullivan who announced the VeriChip would be perfect as a universal ID to distinguish safe people from the dangerous ones. He dreamed of GPS-equipped chips being injected into foreigners entering the United States, prisoners, children, the elderly. He thought the VeriChip would be used as a built-in credit or ATM card.

Indeed, in 2004, one of VeriChip’s earliest deployments was at a Barcelona nightclub, where VIP patrons could pay 125 euro to get the chip installed in their arms as a debit card for drinks.

But today, Sullivan’s replacement says the company has no plans to market the VeriChip as a path to instant credit, despite the recent acquisition.

With his white-buttondown shirt open at the chest, PositiveID CEO Scott Silverman spoke about the merger in an interview at the company’s office suite in Delray Beach, Florida. “Using the chip to relate to the credit-reporting services of NationalCreditReport.com, or even using it for financial transactions … has not been a part of our business model for five years or more, since Sullivan’s been gone, and is not part of our business model moving forward,” he says.

Silverman also backed away from some of the Orwellian ideas floated by his cyberpunk predecessor. “I can tell you that … putting [the chips] into children and immigrants for identification purposes, or putting them into people, especially unwillingly, for financial transactions, has [not] been and never will be the intent of this company as long I’m the chairman and CEO,” he says.

Yet in 2004, Silverman told the Broward-Palm Beach New Times that the VeriChip could be used as a credit card in coming years. And in 2006, he went on Fox & Friends to promote the chipping of immigrant guest workers to track them and monitor their tax records.

And ahead of the recent merger, VeriChip gave a presentation to investors hinting there would be some cross-pollination between the two sides of the business. It plans to “cross-sell its NationalCreditReport.com customer base” (.pdf) the Health Link service and vice-versa. So, Americans with implanted VeriChips will be encouraged to divulge their finances to PositiveID, while credit-monitoring customers will be marketed the health-record microchip.

Critics of chipping are moved by a variety of concerns, ranging from the pragmatic to the religious — anti-RFID crusader Katherine Albrecht believes the technology is the Mark of the Beast predicted in the Book of Revelation, but also doubts its efficacy as a medical tag: VeriChip’s instruction manual warns that the chip may not function in ambulances and areas where there are MRI and X-ray scanners.

Security is another issue. RFIDs can generally be scanned from distances much greater than the official specs suggest. Nicole Ozer at the ACLU of Northern California notes that after Wired magazine writer Annalee Newitz experimentally cloned her VeriChip in 2006, the company continued calling it secure.

But human chipping has high-profile fans as well, including former Secretary of Health and Human Services Tommy Thompson, who left his job as overseer of the FDA in 2005 — a year after VeriChip’s approval — to join the company’s board of directors. Thompson announced he would personally join the 700 to 900 Americans who have the chip installed in their bodies. (He later reportedly reneged.)

Whatever its plans for the future, PositiveID is focused on its original mission for now: implants tied to medical records. On December 1, the new company announced it’s collaborating with Avocare, a Florida health care business, in the hopes of bringing its “health care identification products” to 1 million patients.


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VonHelman,

Thanks for bringing that up.

Verichip and Digital Angel, to me, while I understand the religious implications, is nothing more than a outsourcing to civilian corporations of the Government's agenda of bypassing American's Fourth Amendment Rights in regards to Unlawful Search and Seizure, not through having anyone necessarily commiting a crime, but in order to make people incriminate themselves through a lack of knowledge of the law, and as well a lack of the fullest of knowledge of their rights in their entirety.

Information, being searched, analyzed, and cross-referenced by any entity, is being processed for a reason.

More often than not it is harmless towards customer satisfaction, but in the wrong hands, look what it did to 6 million Jews.

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MissAFortiori wrote:Spartan, I sent you the email about this thread. When we gonna clean it up and walk it over?


MissA,

PM me and we can discuss the specifics in more detail.

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THE CORPORATION [1/23] What is a Corporation?

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DPin8fbdGV9Y

THE CORPORATION [2/23] Birth

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D8SuUzmqBewg

THE CORPORATION [3/23] A Legal "Person"

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DwkygXc9IM5U

THE CORPORATION [4/23] Externalities

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DaCGTD5Bn1m0

THE CORPORATION [5/23] Case Histories

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DH3m5lq9FHDo

THE CORPORATION [6/23] The Pathology of Commerce

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Ds5hEiANG4Uk

THE CORPORATION [7/23] Monstrous Obligations

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D3vorWknUybY

THE CORPORATION [8/23] Mindset

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D-hG-c1KY7Y4

THE CORPORATION [9/23] Trading on 9/11

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DyoQOXepaCjk

THE CORPORATION [10/23] Boundry Issues

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DlDMenqKCXdw

THE CORPORATION [11/23] Basic Training

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DHi63rXnuWbw

THE CORPORATION [12/23] Perception Managment

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DkQTkczvE17U

THE CORPORATION [13/23] Like a Good Neighbour

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DyI7_pwxcC6M

THE CORPORATION [14/23] A Private Celebration

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DhJaKtRjqj2M

THE CORPORATION [15/23] Triumph of the Shill

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DroMxTYVxj98

THE CORPORATION [16/23] Advancing the Front

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DDXNvytpgZ7M

THE CORPORATION [17/23] Unsettling Accounts

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DeZkDikRLQrw

THE CORPORATION [18/23] Expansion Plan

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dxw5Fon_EjGw

THE CORPORATION [19/23] Taking The Right Side

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DpkoM8RB-kJ0

THE CORPORATION [20/23] Hostile Takeover

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D1-o8MVvQd7w

THE CORPORATION [21/23] Democracy Ltd.

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D4P4uvC2BFdU

THE CORPORATION [22/23] Psycho Therapies

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3D62_BpZy4cjA

THE CORPORATION [23/23] Prognosis

http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DU4RZqQujqDQ
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i just finish viewing the first video. i hate corporations, IT is the dominate institution with extraordinary influence over our lives - BAD APPLES - especially w/all their creative accounting. IT produces great wealth w/enormous harm to us. the analogy of the eagle is spot on: souring, clear eyed, competitive, preparing to strike (not a vulture - nothing but a f'king vulture), noble (i think not), majestic (my ass) that people can believe in and be inspired by! this is a joke - they are vampires! the only one who sores is the owners - screw Ira Jackson, director for business AND GOVERNMENT!!!!

a corporation is an artificial creation - monsters that devour as much profit as possible at ANYONE'S EXPENSE!

a frankenstein creation that overwhelmed! the word "corporation" is married to the word "agenda"!!!!!!!!!

the principle: IT'S A LARGE, GROWING, SUSTAINED, LEGAL ENTITY THAT EXPECTS HUGH RETURNS FOR THE PEOPLE WHO OWN THIS MONSTER!

sorry for the caps!

SKL: your threads always piss me off!

i'll get back to you on the other videos after i cool down
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musselwhite,

Well, sorry to not accomodate, and piss you off in the process.

I'm laughing pretty hard over here, because I know you do not mean that I piss you off, but that the information is what sets your blood to boiling.

Yes, corporate America, land of the carbon-based tax-bracket, home of the sheared sheeple via conglomerate maximization through tax loopholes.

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SpartanKingLeonidas wrote:musselwhite,

Well, sorry to not accomodate, and piss you off in the process.

I'm laughing pretty hard over here, because I know you do not mean that I piss you off, but that the information is what sets your blood to boiling.

Yes, corporate America, land of the carbon-based tax-bracket, home of the sheared sheeple via conglomerate maximization through tax loopholes.

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i do not like corporate america - i read somewhere that out of 100 of the best economies 50% are corporations http://www.globalissues.org/issue/50/corporations - http://www.corporations.org/system/top100.html

and i believe they are devouring! so how can we NOT feed the beast - they own f'king everything?
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musselwhite,

This is why I do not ever do "corporate loyalty" through brand loyalty.

I purchase my gasoline wherever it is cheapest, I purchase my food where it is cheapest with the highest quality, and I choose clothing that will last me longer because of the higher quality through not purchasing name brands.

As a child and teen I always wanted the Levis and Reboks, like everyone else had, but now I am grateful that I was never stuck in that mindset because to be like everyone else I would have had to sell out to corporate America.

My biggest problem with corporate America is it now sells crap products, that American citizens have gotten lazy in their work ethics, and the shoddy shit that is passed off on the consumer as quality, when it is nothing more than a 1/3 of the quality that America used to produce, and that's American made.

I hate buying foreign made things, like vehicles, but unfortunately, they are higher quality because their corporations respect their people, and expect high quality and only mill it out of their factories.

I have never owned an American made vehicle that lasted as long as a foreign made one.

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