Umm isn't this against the constitution? I though he couldn't give police powers to foreign nations.

Exile1981,

Actually, if you read it, he is giving them immunity, within the confines of the United States of America.

SKL

This seems to give International Criminal Police limitless powers and exemptions from the rules.

What are these privilages,, war crimes, torture, they should be more specific.

Do you have the unamended order? Maybe I overlooked it.

This was dated a few days ago? Man has the wool been pulled over our eyes.

I see things start to brew here in the US and they dont know a fraction of this stuff.

wonderworld,

Ronald Reagan : Executive Order 12425 : International Criminal Police Organizations

...and...

Barack Obama : Executive Order 13524 (Revision of 12425)

SKL

Thank you, Obama sure likes to change the laws and rearrange the Constitution. It's scary to think of what other changes he has planned.

Being under a national emergency gives him a lot more power.

wonderworld,

I am almost certain this has to do connections with the World Health Organization being down on the Mexican/American Border.

SKL

Just wondering if we have a quid pro quo in Europe.

Hmmrrmmffff

CCL,

Are you kidding?

The British spy on our citizens, while we spy on their's, in order to circumvent the laws that are supposed to protect both countries.

As far as any organization being able to declare immunity, I think that's complete bullshit, and any Interpol Officer coming on to American soil can pretty much expect violence from any American citizen, since so many are clueless about our laws, let alone international law.

SKL

He used to teach Constitutional law. He knows it well enough to cercomvent it and change it.
What a piece of crap. Not that I have an opinion or anything.......

jvthundercat,

Who taught Constitutional Law?

SKL

Didn't I read something once about INTERPOL having something to do with investigating cyber crimes. . . ? I have some vague recollection of INTERPOL being tied to the Internet. Could have been with border issues, but something about extraditing people. . . I do know the organization is VERY active in pursing Nigerian email scams and shutting down bank accounts used by African scammers.

Obama was a Professor and taught it. He has mentioned this many times.

Bonehead,

I am sure they do that, it is an international crime, so the nature of the crime fits the ability of the agency.

SKL

Well we're a global people; we should have a global police. Innocent until proven guilty is an American thing. The constitution is an American thing. Americans are just being persnickety in not melding into the NWO.

Think globally, act locally.
One planet, one people, please.

*sarcasm off*

This one is going to need watching very carefully. There is a problem here which is mostly undefined as are many doings of many previous administrations.

There is a potential problem here with this particular President as he is a Constitutional Lawyer...that is unless he slept through most of his classes.

The problem is that under the American system of Law there is a presumption of innocence. Where the government must prove your guilt..not you prove your innocence.

The basis at law of most foreign governments is that you are guilty as charged and you must prove your innocence. Foreign police operate under this concept as well. There are fewer limits on their police powers.

A Constitutional lawyer who was not asleep at the wheel in class would know this. Even a lawyer trained/schooled in Admiralty Maritime law/statutes in equity in this country would also know this.

So we are going to have Interpol police running around this country enforcing world class laws where we as Americans must prove our innocence..and not have protections from governments or even our government as stipulated through our Constitution. But instead we must cede/yield to police forces running loose in our country who operate on the principle we must prove our innocence. This will also limit our ability to fight extradition under this executive order.

Do any of you see how difficult it is to get Roman Polanski back here to stand trial?? How difficult do you think it will be for any of us to be extradited to another country under this executive order??


Also watch this dumbness closely. Someone in this system wants to make sure the Gitmo prisoners stand trial in a civilian court and that they have every protection of American Law and Jurisprudence. How about any of us arrested by Interpol.?? What protections do you think we will be getting??

Are any of you catching on to this nonsense??? If you think it through it doesn't make good nonsense...especially for a constitutional lawyer. You have to go to school to be this naturally dumb...or someone outside of America and American interests is pulling your puppet strings.

Are any of you catching on yet what it is going to mean to be a "Citizen of the World??" By default??

Think it through ..the direction we are going.

The Olde Man told me many years ago...this country is very exceptional in this sick corrupt world. Other countries cannot become like us..not possible. Not in a thousand years. Therefore we must be made to become like other countries. As time transpires ...what the olde man taught me was not far off the mark.

Keep an eye on this one as it takes place and is carried out to it's ultimate conclusion.

Thanks,
Orangetom

Lemme get this straight.
I can blow up the WTC, be a foreign citizen, hang out in Kabul, kill american soldiers, and get a trial in New York.

I can be an american citizen, do nothing, get arrested by INTERPOL, and not have the same rights?

You are fucking kidding, right?

i'm still reading and watching the videos. i hope your interpretation is wrong. i've already sent out email alerts linking to this thread. all i am able to say right now is damn!

The problem with Napoleonic law vs. British common law is with a presumption of guilt, it is damn near impossible to prove innocence. Basic law 101 as well as philosophy class teaches that you can not prove a negative. How do you prove that you DIDN'T steal something? By NOT having it in your possession????? How do you prove you DIDN'T kill someone? Hold a seance?

Under our common law, even circumstantial evidence is considered unworthy of a conviction. Yes, you may have been seen going into the store around the time the place was robbed and the clerk shot and yes, you may be a registered gun owner but the law does not presume that you're the one that robbed and killed in that instance.

Under this amended executive order, not only will circumstantial evidence be enough to convict you but circumstantial evidence won't even be needed. You'll have no rights.

Obama is a traitor to the American people and constitutional republic form of government.

That is some scary info ww. Wow, this is just getting worse every day for us good folk. It is going to get to where we are persecuted for no reason at all.