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Mexican Government successfully sheds the US Dollar from its economy

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Post Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:59 pm

Mexican Government successfully sheds the US Dollar from its economy

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Mexico has always considered the US dollar almost a secondary currency to their Peso as the fact that billions of US dollars spent their way through the Mexican economy in 2009 and 2010 which speaks for itself, but sometimes even the best of friendships come to an end.

The Mexican government in September 2010 enacted a very restrictive law which basically restricts the use of US Dollars for almost all purchases inside of Mexico.

In early 2010 travelers and visitors could shop at many of the large US corporations inside of Mexico such as Wal-Mart, Home Depot or even one of the hundreds of American food establishments such as McDonalds or Dominoes Pizza and pay for their meal using US Dollars but under the new law using US Dollars is no longer an option.

Just image the surprise of many Americans being told by Wal-Mart that US Dollars are no longer accepted at their store especially since Wal-Mart is one of the most iconic “American” businesses in the world with such buying power that they set the prices which manufactures must sell them their items for.

Wal-Mart´s buying power is so well known in fact that most people would normally be able to safely assume that with such buying power that Wal-Mart could also force almost any country into allowing them to accept the US Dollar to further their in store sales, but apparently not even Wal-Mart is that powerful.
Therefore it was no surprise that when this story broke in late September of 2010 that Mexico was no longer accepting US Dollars the internet was abuzz with conspiracy theories claiming a banking holiday was in short order or the crash of the US dollar was intimate while others were raising the “BS” flag and claiming Mexico would never stop accepting US Dollars because those dollars were its economic life support but as the year closed out and those “end of the world” predictions didn’t come to pass and the fact Mexico did stop accepting the dollar, well that only left many people wondering what really was going on south of the border.

The Mexican government had made it clear that they will no longer allow ANY businesses to accept US dollars including American companies regardless of the operation or who is paying in American dollars. That’s right, this means if you’re a US citizen and fly into Mexico for vacation or business your hotel is no longer allowed to exchange cash dollars into pesos at the front desk which was customary up until 2011.

Also in Mexico if you travel to a local bank regardless of the bank name or national origin including HSBC from China which is the fastest growing bank in Mexico you are no longer able to exchange US Dollars for pesos. Only account holders at banks have the option of depositing US Dollars into their bank accounts but this is for deposits only and not exchange and then you have to have a special type of account set up that is more costly. Of course even if you do have a special account that allows you to deposit US dollars your bank will charge you a service free for depositing foreign currency into your account and then probably another service fee for a withdrawal but that’s another issue all together.

Ok so many readers are probably asking if the banks no longer exchange money or business are no longer allowed to accept US Dollars then what is a person who has US dollars suppose to do.

For those who have traveled to Mexico there is a good chance you are familiar with Casa de Cambios which are small exchange centers for US dollars and often littered on every corner of any large tourist city or the closer to the border you are, however these Casa de Cambios themselves have come under strict new regulation as well as have been greatly reduced in numbers as more are closing every day faster than “one hour” Kodak film processing centers or Blockbuster video locations.

Part of the new regulations is that anyone exchanging money for any reason must now present a valid government ID which is copied and placed on file with a copy of the transaction and amount of money being exchanged. This additional paperwork and hassles now mean higher operational costs for these businesses which in turn mean those costs will be passed onto the consumers who are often the one that end up paying for everything anyway.

Another drawback is that since there are now fewer Casa de Cambios this means less competition and so the exchange rate doesn’t have to be as competitive or even what the banks posted exchange rate is, after all you really have no other option in exchanging your US dollars. Gone are the days of such advantageous exchange rates that allowed anyone exchanging US Dollars into Pesos additional purchasing power by walking away with more for your money south of the border.

The Mexican government wants everyone to believe that these new laws were enacted because the war on drugs and the inability to track all these US Dollars floating around their economy which they claim the drug cartels are using in a black market way but a closer look indicates something completely different.
As the dollar continues to lose purchasing power so does the ever enjoyed exchange rate the US Dollar held for so long. This is a way to actually help devalue the US Dollar while protecting the Mexican economy from going down with the US financial Titanic that has been taking on way too much water in the form of overspending and red ink.

With the value of the dollar sliding lower each day there are some experts who are predicting the US Dollar to reach a point that it will either collapse or need to be reevaluated but either way the Peso is expected to be worth more than the US Dollar and this looks like it will happen sometime very soon at the rate of how things are changing for the Dollar around the world.

This is why it looks as if the Mexican government is doing everything it can to remove as many US Dollars from their economy so there are fewer US Dollars in circulation inside of Mexico so that when the US Dollar does finally go by the wayside there will be less of a direct affect on the Mexican Economy as a whole.
It has now been almost 5 full months since this law took effect and Mexico has been successful in eliminating millions of US fiat Dollars out of its economy and taking steps to vamp up the removal of all remaining dollars by recently instigating even stricter rules at the Casa de Cambios preventing them from exchanging more than $300.00 dollars per transactions. This means it will be much more difficult for Mexicans to send US Dollars home to their families without enriching the pockets of the bankers and the money transfer companies. These caps on exchanging Dollars will also cause the people to want to get away from the dollar faster as it’s more difficult and costly to do business with dollars.

On a side note it´s also important to note that the Mexican economy grew at a rate of just over 5% in 2010 and by the year’s end many large companies in Mexico were reporting stronger than ever revenue and sales at rates not seen in many years. Many large companies are actually in hiring frenzies and some companies are desperate to fill slots with qualified workers.

Now while some will argue that any cash regardless if it is drug money or laundered is actually good for an economy but most people can also understand it’s not good if that cash you have is losing its value so fast that it isn’t going to be worth the paper it’s printed on so it´s best to get rid of that money as fast as you can.

There has been a rush to sell off US Dollars inside Mexico because the people are sensing a coming financial storm with the US Dollar and they too don’t want to be stuck with worthless paper or allowing that worthless paper to drag down their economy especially while their overall economy is going through a growth trend but until that time does come you will still be able to use your credit and debit cards as those funds are simply automatically converted at the time of a transaction but are not physically in the economic system as fiat paper money but rather electronic funds.

A good conspiracy theorist will argue the point that the removal of paper money and forcing people into electronic transactions and requiring those who do use cash to provide ID to be Orwellian and that the bankers come out winning might have a point to some degree but in Mexico the fiat currency in the form of Peso bills can still be used for most transactions. The irony is that many Americans for so long often use to complain about how so many Mexicans living in the United States were sending US Dollars back to Mexico and how it hurt the US economy. The irony is now those Americans are getting their wish that little if any US dollars are being sent to Mexico and in turn this is actually greatly helping the Mexican economy while drastically hurting and aiding in the devaluation of the US dollar.

SO for those planning to travel to Mexico be sure to take your Kevlar and your American Express card (don’t leave home without it) and remember Visa is everywhere you want it to be, even in Mexico where the Dollar is no longer accepted.


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U.S. Attorney Anne Tompkins said. “Forms of anti-government activities that do not involve violence are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the country”

NO Anne anti-government activities are not a danger to the country, just a danger to the corrupt self serving government that has a current strangle hold over the great country and its people... Long live the USA but down with its tyrannical, self serving (at our expense) government
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Post Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:49 pm

Re: Mexican Government successfully sheds the US Dollar from its economy

I can envision a time when paper currency older than a couple years will be rejected by banks or other institutions. This should make it nearly impossible to exchange even large numbers of US dollars that are likely related to illegal activities. There was a story a few years ago of drug lords burying large quantities of US dollars in plastic barrels. Other stories were of terrorists etc. involved in stealing millions during the middle east wars. It won't be long before people have to use their debit cards or similar at casinos.

People will have to pay taxes on winnings regardless of their losses the same day. :ohmy: :dizzy:
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Post Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:56 pm

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i propose we change the name of "debit cards" to what they really are designed to be "debt cards"
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Post Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:36 pm

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Well, Mexico HAS pulled the "devaluation trick" before- back in the early 90's, I think. The day AFTER ElPresidente, assured "the little people", that the Peso was STRONG!, it was devalued, 14:1, I think. Sorry, about trying to remember numbers from long ago- that part of my brain was phucked, either by blunt-trauma injury, or the years of opiate-therapy. Glad THAT is over with! A word of advise- NEVER accept an opium-derived drug from an MD- it will phuck-up your life, unless you are one of the strongest-willed people around. Pain, is better than the side-effects!
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Post Wed Feb 02, 2011 7:30 pm

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Patriotgal wrote:Well, Mexico HAS pulled the "devaluation trick" before- back in the early 90's, I think. The day AFTER ElPresidente, assured "the little people", that the Peso was STRONG!, it was devalued, 14:1, I think. Sorry, about trying to remember numbers from long ago- that part of my brain was phucked, either by blunt-trauma injury, or the years of opiate-therapy. Glad THAT is over with! A word of advise- NEVER accept an opium-derived drug from an MD- it will phuck-up your life, unless you are one of the strongest-willed people around. Pain, is better than the side-effects!


one of my best friends has genetic disorders that basically cause huge nerve pain all over her body, she NEEDS meds to get out of bed basically. but you are SO right about the opiates that MDS give, she could go on for hours about how they got her hooked on prescription drugs and that she looked and felt like a heroin addict.
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Post Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:29 pm

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Smart phones are making currency and even debit cards endangered species fast.

America should tax all monies sent to Mexico sent by Western Union type business'. We are crazy to allow all that money to leave here anyway.
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Post Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:32 am

Re: Mexican Government successfully sheds the US Dollar from its economy

what happened to the NAU? that disappeared fast.
and that makes me wonder what currency we are buying oil from mexico with?
even though they try to get you to believe that the middle east is our only source, we get our oil from this side of the globe mostly.
Canada: 18.2 percent
Mexico: 11.4 percent
Saudi Arabia: 11 percent
Venezuela: 10.1 percent
Nigeria: 8.4 percent
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True this. Mexico's been moving away from the dollar. I saw this starting in Southern Mexico a little over a year ago. Times they are a changing.
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spectre0o0 wrote:what happened to the NAU? that disappeared fast.
and that makes me wonder what currency we are buying oil from mexico with?
even though they try to get you to believe that the middle east is our only source, we get our oil from this side of the globe mostly.
Canada: 18.2 percent
Mexico: 11.4 percent
Saudi Arabia: 11 percent
Venezuela: 10.1 percent
Nigeria: 8.4 percent



Crude oil is still being purchased with the US Dollar but not sure how much longer that will be happening as many places want to replace the Dollar with a basket of currencies. Other places like Germany want out of the Euro currency and want to go back to their own.

If the dollar does continue to lose value Mexico will be in a much better position because it’s the USA who is in need of the oil more than Mexico so Mexico can dictate what currency they will sell their oil in or if they even sell at all.

If Mexico ends up keeping that oil then gas prices in Mexico will fall but since Pemex is the state owned and operated gas company that is already subsidizing oil prices they are in a pretty good position south of the border to be calling the shots in regards to their own country.
U.S. Attorney Anne Tompkins said. “Forms of anti-government activities that do not involve violence are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the country”

NO Anne anti-government activities are not a danger to the country, just a danger to the corrupt self serving government that has a current strangle hold over the great country and its people... Long live the USA but down with its tyrannical, self serving (at our expense) government
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Post Sat Feb 05, 2011 7:46 pm

Re: Mexican Government successfully sheds the US Dollar from its economy

Correction / Clarification

Along the border in what are considered "The Frontera" cities / Towns the US Dollar is still accepted in certain locations and large establishments like Wal-Mart but this is because the rules for these cities is different than the rest of Mexico. This article I wrote above was citing or talking about the Mexico interior and therefore there is some confusion bu some to this article and if or where the Dollar's are still accepted.

In short order it wont matter because the border towns are WAY to dangerous for Americans to travel in and not many people will be sending US Dollars back to these few cities.

for the naysayers I suggest you travel inside of Mexico first and try spending dollars anywhere then post your claims that this article is BS, or better yet search Google on "US dollars no longer accepted in Mexico"
U.S. Attorney Anne Tompkins said. “Forms of anti-government activities that do not involve violence are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the country”

NO Anne anti-government activities are not a danger to the country, just a danger to the corrupt self serving government that has a current strangle hold over the great country and its people... Long live the USA but down with its tyrannical, self serving (at our expense) government
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Post Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:20 pm

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When I was a kid I lived in a southern state for awhile. One of the more fun things our family did was travel to Mexico. The best thing about that trip was the bartering. The dollar was strong, the peso cheap, goods and services could be acquired at a bargain. Later in life as a young man, I made a couple trips to Can Cun. Again, a great time and quite inexpensive. As I matured and started learning about the country, its government, its troubles, etc. many questions were answered as to why their currency was so cheap, and why we had illegal immigration in this country.



Perhaps, however, the tide is changing.



Check this out, read it this morning: (emphasis mine)

With the value of the dollar sliding lower each day there are some experts who are predicting the US Dollar to reach a point that it will either collapse or need to be reevaluated but either way the Peso is expected to be worth more than the US Dollar and this looks like it will happen sometime very soon at the rate of how things are changing for the Dollar around the world.

This is why it looks as if the Mexican government is doing everything it can to remove as many US Dollars from their economy so there are fewer US Dollars in circulation inside of Mexico so that when the US Dollar does finally go by the wayside there will be less of a direct affect on the Mexican Economy as a whole.

http://www.thepeoplesvoice.org/TPV3/Voi ... #more16184

The Peso worth MORE than the Dollar?!!! Right now, it takes 12 Pesos to equal a dollar. If the Peso ends up being worth more than a Dollar, that means the dollar would fall to something below 8 cents!!! I find the number interesting, as in the past I have read from credible sources that in order to solve our national debt/currency problems we would have to devalue the dollar 20-to-1 making the value 5 cents per every dollar.

China, Russia, India and other nations are purchasing massive amounts of gold. Large transactions between countries are being done without using the Dollar (world reserve currency), and now this?

Do you get the impression that everyone has been filled in on what’s about to go down, except us?


http://theprovidentpilgrim.com/?p=737

Interesting read on my article, and I notice the same thing
U.S. Attorney Anne Tompkins said. “Forms of anti-government activities that do not involve violence are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the country”

NO Anne anti-government activities are not a danger to the country, just a danger to the corrupt self serving government that has a current strangle hold over the great country and its people... Long live the USA but down with its tyrannical, self serving (at our expense) government
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Post Mon Feb 07, 2011 4:49 pm

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VonHelman wrote:On a side note it´s also important to note that the Mexican economy grew at a rate of just over 5% in 2010 and by the year’s end many large companies in Mexico were reporting stronger than ever revenue and sales at rates not seen in many years. Many large companies are actually in hiring frenzies and some companies are desperate to fill slots with qualified workers.



interesting I posted this comment (above) in my article and then today I see this on MSN

Factories boom, but with few new workers


A separate report by the Commerce Department showed that U.S. factory orders rose in December, pushed higher demand from businesses for machinery and communications equipment. Orders have risen in five of the past six months.

The rise in orders has prompted manufacturers to boost hiring. On Friday, the government reported that the sector added 49,000 new jobs in January - even as bad weather dampened employment gains for other industries.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41415001/ns ... nd_economy
U.S. Attorney Anne Tompkins said. “Forms of anti-government activities that do not involve violence are every bit as insidious and represent a clear and present danger to the country”

NO Anne anti-government activities are not a danger to the country, just a danger to the corrupt self serving government that has a current strangle hold over the great country and its people... Long live the USA but down with its tyrannical, self serving (at our expense) government

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