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Obama Never Attended Columbia University

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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:30 pm

Obama Never Attended Columbia University

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1) Columbia University will not divulge whether the “alleged” diploma issued was in the name of Barry Soetoro or Barack Hussein Obama. No public record exists regarding the diploma.

American Grand Jury has archived extensive records over the past year which we used in our jury hearings. We now believe beyond a reasonable doubt that Obama is not a “natural born” citizen and it is even possible that he may be an illegal alien.

We also have records showing the Democratic National Convention fraudulently declared Obama constitutionally eligible while never vetting the “natural born” requirement with the electorate.

Now, new evidence has come to light whereby Dr. James Manning has declared that Obama never attended Columbia University [New York].

Dr. Manning has hired a team of investigators to comb over every bit of available evidence to validate his declaration.

Manning’s investigators conclusively state that:

2) Obama alleges he attended Columbia in 1982, 1983. But, the investigators have been UNABLE to turn up a single shred of written documentation for the years 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984 that show where Obama appeared on a school roster, register, faculty memo, bulletin board, school awards, dean’s list; where Obama’s name appeared in a yearbook, club record, fraternity record, extra curricular activity member roster, student newspaper, student radio or tv activity; where Obama appeared in any records as a worker, employee, laborer in or about Columbia University; where Obama enrolled in any sports activity or program.

3) As a graduating senior in 1983 he does not appear in any Political Science (his major) or Granduating Class yearbook or invitation records.

4) There is absolutely no documentation of any kind to show Obama attended, lived, worked or played at Columbia University during the investigated 4 years.

5) Interviewed professors, college employees, students (who were at Columbia during the years in question) have failed to turn up a single person that can remember Obama. This is irrefutable evidence. Think about your own situation if Obama had attended your college? A “now-famous” person went to your school? Many would be able to say, “of course I remember.” At Columbia, not a single person has been able to say he or she remembers Obama.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:35 pm

Re: Obama Never Attended Columbia University

Excellent thread!!! :star5:

My question is... Doesn't one have to have a certain amount of credits to obtain a law degree? How did he even manage to get that with no proof he went to school - unless someone forged the documents. As I understand it, that's illegal for the rest of us.

My next question would be... Who the hell was personally responsible for vetting this man and where are the records they used to do so?

No birth certificate, no proof of college, probably means requirements for law degree weren't met meaning he isn't even a lawyer.

The only thing we seem to know about this man for 100 percent sure is that he's surrounded himself with Zionists that protect his every move and seem to control our financial institution - The fed. Now that's some scary stuff.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:00 pm

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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:03 pm

Re: Obama Never Attended Columbia University

My next question would be... Who the hell was personally responsible for vetting this man and where are the records they used to do so?


I don't know, but I have done my research for almost three years now, and he is as dirty as they come.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:18 pm

Re: Obama Never Attended Columbia University

good grief is the man human or was he cloned from osama bin laden?
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:48 pm

Re: Obama Never Attended Columbia University

Well he did attend Harvard law school. He was president of the Harvard Law Review while there. If you want proof that Obama attended Columbia, just check the wiki page for obama.
Obama is a graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he was the president of the Harvard Law Review. He was a community organizer in Chicago before earning his law degree. He worked as a civil rights attorney in Chicago and taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004.

wikipedia says he was there, thats proof enough for me! [*]sarcasm[*]
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:49 pm

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hmm... what is the [*] thing for? didn't work like I thought it does.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:55 pm

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Since Obama's mother is a US citizen so is Obama. The rest is up for grabs.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:01 pm

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wyleecoyote wrote:Excellent thread!!! :star5:

My question is... Doesn't one have to have a certain amount of credits to obtain a law degree? How did he even manage to get that with no proof he went to school - unless someone forged the documents. As I understand it, that's illegal for the rest of us.

My next question would be... Who the hell was personally responsible for vetting this man and where are the records they used to do so?

No birth certificate, no proof of college, probably means requirements for law degree weren't met meaning he isn't even a lawyer.

The only thing we seem to know about this man for 100 percent sure is that he's surrounded himself with Zionists that protect his every move and seem to control our financial institution - The fed. Now that's some scary stuff.


You need to graduate from undergrad to attend law school and pass the LSATs. You also have to fill out various forms for the schools you apply to, most of which pertain to your background (where you were born, lived, attended school(s), grades, work experience, letters of recommendation). If this were true it would mean that both Columbia and Harvard have either lied to help Obama or were duped (in Columbia's case, lied would probably be the case). This would truly be a conspiracy.
My question would be "Why"? Couldn't they have found a better choice (whomever the conspirators are)? Someone that wouldn't leave so many loose ends?
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:22 pm

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Yep, pretty messed up stuff when you really think about it, the lies run deep and for a long time, which means this has all been planned for awhile. Bush's continued war policy against the muslims, the fed, the dollar all of it, tracked right back to Israel. What I wouldn't give to be a fly on the wall at Rahm Israel Emanuels place. Americans are being marched right off the cliff in a well planned slaughter and they just don't get it.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:36 pm

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Well, I have to say, when I started looking at conspiracies, I believed most of what I read. Then, I became more discerning. Now, it's really someone's word against someone else's word. In the end, I have no idea who to believe. I haven't done any true first hand research on whether Obama went to Columbia or not. Most of the stuff out there on any of these conspiracy theories are just put up by some dude. When these dudes make prediction 85% or more of them do not come true. So, at this point, I read and tuck the knowledge away and try not to get caught up emotionally in this stuff. Everybody is so sure they are right. I find many also get very upset when you question, even politely.
The only reason I question this is, first off, unless the law has been changed since Obama was born (don't think it was), a child born to a US citizen is a US citizen. So, this article is incorrect on that point.
Secondly, as I've said, why wouldn't they find someone better suited. Or, if they were going to use Obama no matter what, couldn't they have gotten him into Columbia? Obviously, if this article is correct, "they" pulled strings at Columbia to get the people in charge to lie and say Obama attended. Why couldn't they have just enrolled the guy, had him show up for enough classes, and passed him regardless of how he did?
Instead, they leave this mess which seems to have gotten past the Chicago legislators, the US Congress and most of the American people.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:39 pm

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hmmmm wrote:Well, I have to say, when I started looking at conspiracies, I believed most of what I read. Then, I became more discerning. Now, it's really someone's word against someone else's word. In the end, I have no idea who to believe. I haven't done any true first hand research on whether Obama went to Columbia or not. Most of the stuff out there on any of these conspiracy theories are just put up by some dude. When these dudes make prediction 85% or more of them do not come true. So, at this point, I read and tuck the knowledge away and try not to get caught up emotionally in this stuff. Everybody is so sure they are right. I find many also get very upset when you question, even politely.
The only reason I question this is, first off, unless the law has been changed since Obama was born (don't think it was), a child born to a US citizen is a US citizen. So, this article is incorrect on that point.
Secondly, as I've said, why wouldn't they find someone better suited. Or, if they were going to use Obama no matter what, couldn't they have gotten him into Columbia? Obviously, if this article is correct, "they" pulled strings at Columbia to get the people in charge to lie and say Obama attended. Why couldn't they have just enrolled the guy, had him show up for enough classes, and passed him regardless of how he did?
Instead, they leave this mess which seems to have gotten past the Chicago legislators, the US Congress and most of the American people.


all of what you said is true, but 2o bucks says we will know all about anyone running for pres again.
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Post Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:40 pm

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Hopefully, that's the outcome of all of this. If it is, it's worth it. Maybe, not for Obama.....hahahahaha.... but for the rest of us.
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Post Wed Feb 10, 2010 12:37 am

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Dooky.

I'll add more later.

Gotta fix the water softener.
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Post Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:04 pm

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Aww you guys stop picking on him.
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:19 am

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Ha ha ha wizardwars ROTF!

@ hmmmm I'm really interested in your theory. Does anyone know for sure if the law has changed. If he was born to an American mother and that law makes him an American by circumstance, then why the big argument? He's legally the president, which means Hmmm has stumbled upon an even bigger conspiracy... But we won't go there until we're sure that being born on foreign land to an American mother in the year Obama was born would make him a citizen. Anyone know???
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Wylee, I don't believe that Obama is a 'natural born citizen' meeting Constitutional requirements to hold that office, but I stopped arguing that point long ago, as folks in the opposition camp get pretty rabid about it, and meaningful discussion breaks down. Neither will I argue it here.

They key words in many of the arguments are 'natural born', not the citizen part. There is a difference, legally and constitutionally.

I gathered up quite a lot of evidence that the COLB put on the internet by his campaign was a forgery, and had to ask why they felt a need to forge it, if there was a real one to be had. Matter of fact, I have a copy of the blank it was made from, identifiable by a particular smudge found on both. Additionally, the EXIF information in the finished forgery as posted DOES have a Photoshop tag, indicating it was manipulated by Photoshop, but that by itself means nothing. It could have just been processed for something as mundane as a mere contrast adjustment. The smudge was what convinced me it was forged.

There are a number of other considerations to address concerning it, and so far no one has. There have been a lot of obfuscations and carefully worded statements which don't actually say what they APPEAR to say. What Janice Okubo had to say in Hawaii, for example, was "we have a copy of his original birth certificate on file". What is NOT said in that sentence is every bit as important, nay MORE so, than what IS said. In the final analysis, it's all smoke and mirrors.

Neither his mother's citizenship nor her nationality have any bearing on Obama's citizenship, due to US citizenship law at the time he was born. Her age, however, DOES have a bearing on it.

Another thing, for me, that makes it appear suspicious is the inordinate amount of effort that has gone into keeping virtually ALL of his records 'secret'. I have to ask why. I was born 12 days before Obama, and I can say, speaking only for myself, that if I were in HIS place, and all this controversy had occurred, I'd release the records as a matter of principle in order to allay fears and inspire confidence in the American people. Obviously, he has chosen to take a different tack, and I have to wonder why. I've got stuff to hide myself, as I reckon most folks do, but the fact that I was born, and where, and if, where, and when I went to school are NOT among those secrets. Why are they among his? I can only imagine...

As I said, I won't argue about it. Flame away, you can burn me to a cinder on this one, and I'll just crinkle and pop. I believe what I believe, and won't be budged, but neither do I care any more to budge anyone else. I gathered my evidence early on, and when it all started mysteriously disappearing off of the internet, I copied it and stashed it somewhere safe, from which I'll have to retrieve it should anyone else want copies. Be forewarned, I'm not going to post it anywhere for pickup. You want 'em, it'll require an E-mail. Them's the rules.
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:09 am

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Ninurta, I think Obama is full of bullshit also.

Someday, the truth WILL come out.
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:34 am

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Ninurta come on... You should know better. Me of all people asked the question. That means I respect someone wouldn't just throw something stupid out there because I want to learn from the answer. I have a theory based off something Hmmm said. The theory won't work as long as the legality of his birth is an issue, so please share. I don't think we have very many people who would oppose your view at 411 who would get rabid about it. The team you're talking who might question your view here at 411 are pretty open minded people who are here to learn, not call names and act like 6th graders. Give it a shot, you'd be surprised at how grown up the "question the lies team" is.

I believe there must be a valid question behind Obama's birth certificate or it wouldn't be going on for this long.

I can say, speaking only for myself, that if I were in HIS place, and all this controversy had occurred, I'd release the records as a matter of principle in order to allay fears and inspire confidence in the American people.


I've said this very same thing forever when talking about 911. If there isn't anything to hide and the pentagon really was hit by a plane, then why can't we see the video tapes the government confiscated from all the PRIVATE local businesses just minutes after it happened? If there's nothing to lie about show us the the video tapes. Works the same way you're talking now. We know there's a big hole in the pentagon, so show us the tapes. We know Obama was born so show us the birth certificate. To hold those from us proves not only are you a liar but that you think we're stupid enough to believe you.

Neither his mother's citizenship nor her nationality have any bearing on Obama's citizenship, due to US citizenship law at the time he was born. Her age, however, DOES have a bearing on it.


So just give me the skinny. Does the law not apply to Obama's birth because of her age? Does the law Hmm mentioned not apply in this case? I don't have a dog in the race because they're all evil and I'm not dumb enough to believe otherwise, but I would like to hear your opinion on if Hmm's theory would work, so we can look at other angles. I'm NOT trying to talk you out of what you believe because I believe you're correct in that there's something wrong. I just need to know what exactly that something is so I can get to the truth behind why they're lying.
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Wylee, if I'm repeating something someone has said since you asked the question, forgive me. It's late and I just want to get to the answer. He is a citizen for the reason I stated.
This is what the Constitution says:
Section 1 of Article Two of the United States Constitution sets forth the eligibility requirements for serving as President of the United States:
“ No person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any Person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty-five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.


What people are saying is that he is not a "natural born citizen". There has been contention over the years (well before Obama) as to what exactly a natural born citizen is. Most people take that to mean being born on American soil. McCain was born in Panama on an army base. People have used the same argument with him. As he wasn't born on American soil, he shouldn't be allowed to run for President.

I only brought up the citizen thing because in the article, the writer suggests that Obama might be an illegal alien. That's impossible as his mother is an American citizen. I mention this because it makes the "journalist's" allegations of Obama not attending or graduating from Columbia University somewhat iffy, if he can't even get that right.

Personally, I think this guy is reaching.
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