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The Dogon and Dolphins

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SilverSky

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Post Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:01 am

The Dogon and Dolphins

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Mystery and Myth?

The Dogon Tribe

There has been much speculation regarding the Dogon tribe and their alleged ancient connection to amphibious beings who (as the story goes) arrived here thousands of years ago and taught them about the Sirius star system and our own solar system.

A very interesting mythological story about whales and dolphins concerns a tribe in west Africa called the Dogon of Mali. The Dogon, whose culture is alive and well today, at one time lived on the southern coast of the Mediterranean. They have many religious and creation beliefs which very much involve the whales and dolphins. They have perpetuated these beliefs in their religious ceremonies and in the form of sand drawings.

In their basket weavings they had 50.8 divisions, the reason for which is that they had quite specific knowledge of the Sirius star system which is a binary star system. They understood how Sirius B, the white dwarf, moved around the main bright star Sirius A. They used sand drawings to illustrate the orbital paths of the stars. The white dwarf Sirius B takes 50.8 years to complete an orbit of Sirius A. The Dogon knew this.

Sirius B, the white dwarf, is not visible using a telescope whereas radio astronomy allows one to hear Sirius B. Arthur C. Clark simply said to Temple, "You would be interested in the Dogon." Richard Temple began research on the Dogon and discovered how much knowledge the Dogon had of the Sirius Star System. He then went on to spend seven years of his life with the Dogon and wrote a book called 'The Sirius Mystery'.

When Temple went to meet the Dogon he asked, "How did you get this knowledge?" The Dogon's answer was very simple. They said, "These creatures came from the star Sirius, landed in the ocean and were in the form of amphibians, whales and dolphins. They gave us the knowledge about the Sirius star system."

http://lightworkers.org/blog/72175/where-did-dolphinspirit-go?sort=asc&order=Title

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Where did the Dogon's Enigmatic Scientific Knowledge about Astronomy came from? According to their oral traditions, a race people from the Sirius system called the Nommos visited Earth thousands of years ago. They also appear in Babylonian, Accadian, and Sumerian myths. The Egyptian Goddess Isis, who is sometimes depicted as a mermaid, is also linked with the star Sirius.

A Babylonian tablet showing what is surmised to be priests who look like fish-men:
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The Nommos, according to the Dogon legend, lived on a planet that orbits another star in the Sirius system. They landed on Earth in an "ark" that made a spinning decent to the ground with great noise and wind. According to oral tradition, it was the Nommos that gave the Dogon the knowledge about Sirius B.

http://churchofcriticalthinking.org/dogon.html

In addition to their knowledge of Sirius B, the Dogon mythology includes Saturn's rings, and Jupiter's four major moons. They have four calendars, for the Sun Moon, Sirius, and Venus, and have long known that planets orbit the sun.

The strange part is that Western astronomers didn't find the star until the middle of the nineteenth century, and most are certain that no previous explorers to the region could have informed them of it. It wasn't even photographed until 1970. This star has formed the basis of the most sacred Dogon beliefs since antiquity.

http://www.geocities.com/jilaens/dogons.html

Legend says that the Nommos lived in water. They descended to Earth in a space ship with three triangular legs. When their ship landed they filled an area with water and dove into the water from their ship. The Dogon believe that the Nommos were sent to Earth for the benefit of mankind.

The word 'Nommo' comes from a Dogon word meaning "To make one drink". The Nommos are also called 'Masters of Water', The Monitors, and the Teachers. They are said to have been more fish-like than human, and lived (partly) in water. They were accepted as saviours and spiritual guardians by the Dogon.

http://www.webtrance.co.za/dogon.htm

Is there a connection to the Dogon's legends of the Nommos and stories of fish gods, mermaids and other mythological amphibious beings found in various part of the world? If you believe in ETs, is it unreasonable to assume that we may have been visited in our ancient past by beings who were amphibious?

And what about those whales and dolphins?
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Post Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:02 am

Re: The Dogon and Dolphins

Man's Best (Amphibian) Friend?

Highly Intelligent Dolphins

The Greek author and moralist Plutarch, who lived from c.46 AD to c. 120 AD said, "To the dolphin alone, beyond all other, nature has granted what the best philosophers seek: friendship for no advantage."

In Plutarch's book On the Cleverness of Animals explanation was made of Odysseus worship of dolphins. Apparently Odysseus' son, Telmachos, fell into the sea and was saved by a dolphin. "And this was why his father had dolphins engraved on his ring and emblazoned on his shield, making his requital to the animal". A more familiar occurrence is mentioned in Shakespeare's Twelfth Night. Arion, a rich poet and musician had his life threatened by pirates on board his ship. His last will was to sing one last song, and since he must die, he wished to jump overboard, taking his own life. After a very high-pitched, long, whaling song, Arion jumped overboard. But he did not drown. A dolphin carried him about 200 miles to shore. The Greek people say that Arion was not a god and that this is true and happened while Pereander was king (about 60 years BC). This incident was also recorded by historian Herodotos and others.

In about the year 200 AD Athenaios and Aelian both told the following story. A boy, Dionysios, had somehow made friends with a wild dolphin. The village people would come out on 'weekends' to watch the boy and dolphin play. It seems that the dolphin would take the boy far out to sea and stay gone for a 'long' time, possibly most of the day. No definite times were given. Hence the length of this relationship is not known, but the fact that 'rarely did anyone come anymore' made it sound like old stuff. Possibly it went on for several years before the dolphin met his tragic end. He followed the boy too far one day and was stranded on the beach. No one was around to help carry the dolphin back to sea and the dolphin died.

http://www.littletownmart.com/dolphins/

In Sumeria, dolphins were connected to Ea-Oannes, the deity of the sea, and sometimes with the goddess Isis in Egypt. The ancient Celts attributed the dolphin with well-worship and the healing powers of water, and the image of people riding dolphins is seen on some Celtic artefacts. Some Australian Aboriginal tribes claim to be direct descendants of dolphins, who are sometimes regarded as guardian spirits. The dolphin is also an important symbol in heraldry, the art of creating coats-of-arms, and represents diligence, salvation, charity and love.

The Maoris of New Zealand have a legend that says they were lead to their promised land by a group of dolphins, who helped them to the shore. In the modern world, tales of dolphins saving humans by battling sharks, helping drowning people ashore and even guiding life boats to victims of shipwrecks frequently make it to the papers. Such actions of compassion are deeply touching, especially when considering the many ways in which dolphins and whales are mistreated by humans. It is no wonder that for the ancient Greeks and Romans, Christians and Native Americans, the dolphin is a symbol of protection, and its image is said to bring good luck.

http://www.ancientspiral.com/dolphin1.htm

There have been many documented instances about the healing properties of dolphins. They have been integrated into therapies for autistic children and people dealing with depression, cancer and other ailments. Many accounts have proven dolphins have saved people from drowning and have fended off sharks when they notice a person in distress. They have been observed coming to the aid of other marine life as well, helping a pilot whale give birth by pulling the baby out and coming to the aid of whales in shallow waters, for a few examples.
Perhaps the only species that compares well with Homo Sapiens in intelligence, dolphins possess an innate gentleness and a mysterious power to trigger the healing process in humans. "What makes dolphins exceptional in therapeutical fields," explains Rene, "is the use of their sonar with which they echolocate their prey. There is evidence that dolphins trigger the healing process in humans by boosting the production of T-cells and endorphins. After patient and dolphin interactions, scientists have measured a far greater harmony between the left and right sides of the brain." He informs that dolphins produce an intense amount of echolocation energy, which resonates in the bones, such as the skull and the sternum, and then travels up the spine.

"Many therapists believe," says Amanda Green, a marine biologist, "that a dolphin's sonar causes a phenomenon called cavitation inside the soft body tissue of the human body. It precipitates a ripping apart of the molecules." So, if sonar does that with cellular membranes, it could completely change the biomolecular structure. She adds, "many hospitals already use a lithotripsy machine that uses low frequency sound waves to break up kidney stones and gall stones. The physics of that machine are not different from a dolphin's sonar."

When you encounter a wild dolphin in open waters, something breaks open the conditioned seals of your heart. "Dolphins make you feel accepted as you are, with unconditional love," explains Amanda. This, she feels, leads to a profound inner peace that reaches out to embrace the universe. In scientific terms, this is biophillia, the transformative power that links you to nature, and, going by recent research, dolphins could be the most powerful carriers of this emotion.

http://www.lifepositive.com/spirit/entities/dolphins/dolphin.asp

The origin of whales and dolphins according to science:

Millions of years ago, a cow-like creature resembling a wolf in appearance, walked on the land in the continents now known as Europe, Asia and North America. These animals were of the now extinct family of Mesonychidae, and as they competed for food on the land, some began to search the waters for food. Generation after generation passed, and the Mesonychidae began to adapt in their new environment. They lost their fur to become more streamlined, enabling them to swim more easily, leaving bare skin over a thick layer of blubber to provide insulation in cold water. Their entire body too was re-shaped to become streamlined; external ears vanished, front legs became flat pectoral fins (flippers) to provide steerage and the back legs were replaced by a muscular tail ending in broad flukes (tail-fins) which, when moved up and down, provided propulsion. To make breathing at the water's surface more efficient, their nostrils moved to the top of their heads and became blow-holes. Thus, from the land-dwelling family of Mesonychidae a new family was born: the family of whales and dolphins.


Or perhaps there is more to these mysterious and highly intelligent creatures than meets the scientific eye? Many ancient cultures are inclined to agree.

Dolphins have never in all our history been known to attack man -- even when man tries to make him. The dolphin will resist even until his death. This alone leads me to believe that there is something superior in dolphins than in any other creature.........including man. C.S. Lewis, in Perelandra (book two of his space trilogy), wrote about a planet where God had created two intelligent species....one that walked on the ground and one that swam in the oceans. What if.......

http://www.littletownmart.com/dolphins/
Last edited by SilverSky on Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
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Post Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:10 am

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what a kick ass thread. I never knew. Just goes to show that there isso much out there yet to learn. Thanks for posting this, at http://www.shtf.com :whistling:
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Post Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:20 am

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Thanks, CL. It took me forever to write that, I was trying to watch the Moon Rising videos Majorion posted while typing about ancient tribes and dolphins. Talk about multi-tasking. :lol:
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Post Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:42 am

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I forgot to add a really intriguing thing about dolphins:

Dolphins recognize themselves in mirrors—one of the few mammals other than humans that have the ability to do so, according to a new study published this week.

Described in the May issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the study found that dolphins not only can recognize themselves in a mirror but also can notice changes in their appearance.

Prior to this research, only higher primates, such humans and chimpanzees, had demonstrated self-recognition in mirrors.


I'm fascinated by the research we've done into dolphin intelligence, it's apparent that they have a far higher intellect than originally thought.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jz3sQsTE5tA

It's also interesting to me how many cultures revere dolphins, as if the ancients knew what we are only (re-)discovering in recent times.
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Post Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:44 am

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Thank you for the thread. I'll eat up anything of this type.
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Post Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:48 am

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MissAFortiori wrote:Thank you for the thread. I'll eat up anything of this type.


I'm fascinated by the mythology/ancient history connection, too. I like reading the ancient astronauts/previous "hidden" advanced civilizations - all that. I don't believe everything that's out there but there must be truth in some of it. Either way, it makes for some interesting reading!
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