NO worries EMT. Got your PM. I too have been very busy around and about here.
Ahhh..I see now..Thanks for that link. I have bookmarked it for future reference.
I was musing on that concept as to where such informations would originate.
I knew that there was something very wrong with the method and analysis of many people today who try to put the onus on the Christian Religion but did not know where such informations or numbers could be found.
Also the word. Democide
is a new one to me. Thanks for that exposure as well. I will try to remember that when debating non believers.
What I find of great interest by people supposedly of logic and reason is the total abscence of this knowledge or even instinct to sense that something is missing from their education and belief system. This very abscence or unawareness by people who believe in democracy.
I Personally do not believe in democracy. I think it is a sham and a scam by logical reasonable men..gnostics seeking a Return or Restoration of the True Brotherhoood.
I also know that there is still a long standing feud or war going on between these men of Gnostic beliefs..logic and reason and another competing group of Gnostics in Rome. The RCC. It is a struggle between Catholic Gnostics and non Catholic Gnostics.
This is what came out of the Enlightenment and continues unto today with millions on both sides caught up into it without knowing or being aware of it's nature.
The Church at Rome went one way and the Protestants or those opposing Rome went another. However ..out of the Enlightenment and rational, logical, reasonable men...came the Internationale..or what was to become the Communists...the UnGodly.
I do also believe EMT...that politics has become a religon..an occult religion with doctrines and practices not known by the people who vote these politicians into office. A devout and zealous religion with a dogma of which the people know little or nothing about it's inner workings and beliefs.
Though I have suspected it for some time now...through past administrations...it has become clear with this one...that the dogma of
Ordo Ob Chao....is their primary operating mode....not leadership per se..but an investment in Chaos.
To divide and conquer...to manage chaos to its reasonable and logical conclusion.....ie...Drama Management/Media Management.
I find this type of conduct by leaders and leadership to be Predatory
and not of stability...nor moral and ethical.
And I believe both dominant political parties are involved in it to the deception and expense of the public.
And in the end...the goal will be exactly what the author of that Wiki article is teaching ...Democide
Thanks for getting back to me on this and providing the link.
Oh..I made a reply to you some time back and dont know if you have seen it on the thread...about Fukashima concerning the term. "Turbine Shine."
Just a bit of trades trivia.
I have no idea what is a "gr8 " candidate and would appreciate you clearing this up for me.
I'm a gr8 candidate for being called an 'atheist', or a 'non believer', but that's simply because I don't subscribe to the god of the bible.
I understand that you do not subscribe to the God of the Bible. No problem by me.
What it is that I appreciate about your posts Sancho is that you tend to go light on the drama verses many non believers who try to substitute drama, labeling and name calling for reason and logic.
I can appreciate this in your posts and personal conduct.
However I have often noted this in the conduct of most Atheists and non believers.
I have also noted this fingerprint or index in our leadership for years now. I do not care to be associated with drama types. It is just a personal preference of mine.
In the heavy industry for which I have worked for so many years...one learns to stow the drama in order to solve problems or face ones death, injury, or maiming. I do not change my beliefs..or jump into a phone booth ..so to speak and put on my drama costume when I leave work. This pattern of thinking and behavior stays with me off the clock as well.
So when I detect leadership or others doing this I tend to put distance between me and them...it is my way.
For the most part..I do not detect this behavior in you. Which leads to the question ...How did you escape this "Virus" which seems so prevalent today in peoples conduct???
I am not saying here that you do not have your passions...but that for the most part you seem to keep them in check whereas others seem incapable of realizing or understanding this concept around them.
In modern society, especially Western society, all 'morals', and 'dogma's' come from biblical constructs; at their core. My point is, what's been driving Amerika from it's conception has been a very real, and very present Christian Crusading 'Cause'; "Onward Yee Christian Soldiers".
I disagree here. In modern western society...there has been a deliberate attempt to substitute this dogma with another dogma based on the gnostic, logical, reasonable beliefs of ancient times. A return to Feudalism...Royalty...Absolute Power....Occult power. What they want to do is come out in the Open with this new system.
To do this Christianity must go. It must be replaced with the new religion, the new belief system...the Novus Ordo Seclorum.
And this is being done in a manner that very few people can detect as most peoples today have a television and movie education in emotions...not thinking.
I also believe that the groundwork for this new Order was laid centuries back.
That this order has come into conflict with another order...for dominance...the Catholic version of the Novus Ordo Seclorum.
Just a matter of which Counterfeit Novus Ordo Seclorum do you want. They are both phonys. And both have their predatory tenticles into governments to hide their true Occult/Gnostic origins. To hide their attempts at the "Restoration of the True Brotherhood."
I don't mean to hijack this thread, but wanted to respond to your post specifically to show irrefutable proof of the warped thinking pervading modern Western Society.
I don't think you are hijacking this thread because the "Chaos" in which will constitute the primary investement in the end...will be key to what is going to happen and why Bugging Out may not be a good option for many.
And I agree..there is alot of warped thinking going on in Western Socitey..but perhapsed not for the reason you think or believe. I believe the warped thinking is being carefully cultivated and encouraged as part of the Chaos desired and needed to bring about a conclusion.
I also think that this Warped Thinking will increase soon...exponentially...and particularly before election time...and continuing long after.
But it's origins are not from Christiantiy. Christianity will however be given and assigned the blame for it as part of the divide and conquer investment in Chaos necessary to reach the goals of these Gnostic Wise Men.
The entire original motivation in the use of using the nuclear bomb was that god gave it to Amerika to defeat the heathens of the world.
I dont believe this at all. I believe power is a HUGE
two way responsiblity. Like any two edged dagger it can cut you back if not used wisely and prudently. And few are the men from history capable of effectively wielding power.
Power corrupts and absolute power...corrupts ...et al...etc etc.
Also from George Santayana...those who do not learn from history ...etc..
I believe you know thesse olde sayings better than do most.
There is a significant amout of truth to them.
My belief is that because of the Fallen nature of men
, very very rare is there a man who can gather power unto himself and not have to use it.
To me ...that is the best kind of leader. Because this leaves the people to conduct their own affairs unto their own conclusions..unto their own responsibilities..their own fruits. This kind of leadership also prevents other men from using and misusing this power.
This is what the founders here in America wanted done through the charter of government. A Limited Government.
This....Sancho...was also their rationale...and correctly so...for the 1st Amendment. To prevent the association of Church and State which is the historical Ballywick of most nations throughout history.
Not to keep the people from living within their religion..but to prevent the "Mischief " of what happened in so many feudal nations/governments before us. For the Founders here Understood the lessons of history and the natural mischief of fallen men...when they get into positions of power.
I am often reminded in this of Oliver Cromwell in England after the Execution of King Charles 1st in 1649. Cromwell thought he would get a government of all religious men...preachers....only to find that they did just as bad if not worse than the fallen men of the previous government. He dismissed them as well. Cromwell could never figure out the system of Limited Government.
From there, we can look at what the conquistadors did to the Native Americans in the Latin American areas, or even what the American protestants did to the Native Americans in the northern America's
One needs to be very careful in dissecting the power structure here before assigning blame as is so textbook of logic and reason today. Also very textbook of todays public education blame game.
I noted this in the recent History Channels rewriting of history when they stuck Al Sharpton on there as a commentator. I dont even remember the name of this history channel program. 15 minutes of it and I turned it off.
I dont respond to such guilt manipulation techniques.
Remember with whom the Church at Rome was in bed with and continues unto this very day.
The Protestants did this or did men seeking power and riches do this and just happen to be protestants??
This does not also explain the "Democide" going on today and since 1900 going on all around the world. Suggest here you learn to look at the world through a Occult template. Another Religion..
one part that I don't necessarily subscribe to, but is a real possibility, is that those people were Jesuit's, and their wars, and/or genocides were religious wars.
To me Sancho...thesre are indeed religious wars. They just do not fit the standard template of religions of which most of us know or are even aware.
The Society of Jesus...is not the product advertised. History should make this quite clear to those who can think outside the box of what passes for most of education/thinking today.Not the product advertised is also a definition of the body politic.
That there is another belief system operating underneath...behind the visibility of most eyes...hidden...concealed.
But, when looking at those conflicts, there were always Western Society=Protestant groups in the mix; Dresden comes to mind; why was Dresden, and it's innocent inhabitants bombed at the end of the war?
World War 1 and World War 2 are continuations of the same war and struggle in Chaos. Dresden as well as Cologne comes to mind as do many Japanesse Cities. So too does Vicksburg, Atlanta, and scorched earth policies.
If you read carefully ...they are occult wars..where the victors do not get the spoils
after expending millions in finance as well as lives.
This means the participating nations are fighting someone else's wars..for someone else's gain. For someone not wanting to be seen or noticed.
This should be obvious once one breaks a public school educational pattern of thinking.
And this pattern is continuing today..in Libya, Egypt, and soon to be Syria.
Also in Iraq and Afghanistan. These are going to be set up as private Feifdoms...private holdings to keep the resources off the marketplace and in the hands and control of private individuals operating through companies and finance institutions.
Watching my time constraints...I must make haste. I do not think you are posting off topic here..but related to what is coming and eventually the "Fallacy of Bugging out" as in the title page of this thread.
Thanks Sancho for your post,