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The Group of 30 (Please read)

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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:51 am

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Greetings Fellow Inmates and Truth Warriors,

I great you on this cold morning in Shanghai, China. Though I am here halfway across the world from my permanent base, this trip-of-a-lifetime has only served to cement my ardent belief that our prison truly is global. Immediately following this post, I will being writing the first in a series of on-the-ground and under-ground reporting from China about all those wonderful aspects of financial life that Bloomberg, CNBC and the rest of them will NEVER report. The actual topics and shape of the articles is yet to be finalized, but if there is anything you would like to see, or want to ask while Im still here (only for 1 more day), Id be happy to try to oblige, I took copious notes.

This is to be a pithy post to bring your attention to a particular entity known as the Group of 30 (www.group30.org) , composed of some of the MOST POWERFUL men in the world. I believe I may hay brought this to your attention in my earlier days as member of the forum, and I often bring it up in my blog, but I think it deserves a post of its own. For lack of time I will not elaborate on the mind-boggling ridiculousness that this Group exists and that moreover, NO ONE knows about it. I hereby challenge you find another PUBLIC entity composed of more individual power; it is THAT heavy. Here is the list of members (though we advise you to explore the website yourself) http://www.group30.org/members.htm. To name but a few: Paul Volcker, Martin Feldstein, Roger W. Ferguson(of a bitch), Jr., Stanley Fischer, Mervyn King, Paul Krugman, Kenneth Rogoff, Masaaki Shit-a-kawa, Lawrence Summers, Jean-Claude Trichet, and last but not least Zhou Xiaochuan. For those of you that aren't finance junkies, the aforementioned list of people features the HIGHEST MONETARY AUTHORITY (ie, the single most powerful person in a country) of England, Europe, Japan, China and Israel.

They are supposed to be a "non-profit" organization that meets bi-annually to discuss economics and other such related Evil matters. They put out publications that always become seminal and taken as law, in spite of their "non-profit" nature. WE stupid MonkeySlaves are expected to believe that these people meet and DONT discuss other things? Very high-ranking individuals from Gold-Man Sacks and Morgan Stanley sit on this group. Maybe that is someone why they survived above their peers? Good thing we know about this and only shorted their LESSER buddies Bear and Lehman.

Finally, I leave you with the list of CONTRIBUTORS, those entities that donate to the Group of 30, and are responsible for its funding, hence have VESTED interests in the group and as such are able to INFLUENCE, if not outright direct, their actions. http://www.group30.org/contributors.htm
Please take CAREFUL note of the above institutions, make a bookmark of the page if you must, as they are at the TOP of the pyramid of power. Notice that following SOVEREIGN INSTITUTIONS donate to the Group of 30, making it IMPOSSIBLE that this is a private non-profit (as they claim) with no real patronage, bullshit:
Austrian National Bank, Banca d'Italia, Banco Central de Chile, Banco de Mexico, Banco de Portugal, Bank of Greece, Central Bank of Malta, Danmarks National Bank, Board of Governers of the Federal Reserve, Federal Reserve Bank of New York (separately), Monetary Authority of Singapore, National Bank of Hungary, Norges Bank, People's Bank of China, Reserve Bank of Australia, Reserve Bank of India, Saudi Arabian Monetary Authority, Skandinaviska Enskilda Banken and Swedbank.

PLEASE think about this for a while. You know human beings, you are one. Think about what happens at these NONPUBLIC meetings (even though they are paid for with taxpayer money). Finally, we remind you that of course, remember that as "impressive" as this group is, it is but a PUBLIC face. They all take orders from an even more select group of individuals that remain behind the scenes in the first place, and appoint these court jesters to sit in on their depraved orgies of power. One things that us MoneySlaves always forget, ever since the days when we toiled away our lives building the Original Pyramids, is that the Pharoah is a HUMAN being, not a god. Hence he has weaknesses, because he CRAVES. He is mortal, because he CRAVES. Once you realize that, you are free. The injustice has gone on long enough. Let the new era of light begin!
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:00 am

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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:19 am

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@MAAA,

Thanks for presenting this; it's definitely some powerful stuff! It's absolutely amazing how these people share the same exact space as we do, but are worlds apart. I think one of the first times I really saw first hand the different worlds was in Panama City, Panama. The common people just walking around, busy in their created little world, but the massive different spheres of influence all around.

Seeing all the different banks, and "interested parties" buildings was an eye opener. I don't think it fails for any main center of influence to have all respective controlling influences, or empires of old, have a building to assert their interests in those areas.... Maybe I didn't explain it all that well, and it's something that is easier to visually see. :unsure:

As far as China??? Shoot!!! I'd like to read all ya' got to say about it. I always knew the US MSM was jaded, and out of touch, but not until I lived out of the country did I realize quite how bad it really was. :smile:
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 1:49 am

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Completely agreed Sancho. The PHYSICAL symbols left behind by the Elites are nothing but monuments to themselves, there to remind the populace constantly who their masters are. What is amazing is the AMOUNT of truth they actually FLAUNT right in front of our oblivious noses. All of must do is walk around NYC for two hours, near Grand Central Station (look at the famous statue on top of Hermes, the eagle, adam and eve, etc), walk a couple of blocks over to Rockefeller center, take a CLOSE look at all the symbols, look at the BRONZE DOORS of St. Patricks Cathedral, etc. ALL THE SYMBOLS left there tell you A STORY, tell you EXACTLY who they believe themselves to be, who are their forebears and they even tell you some of the ACTUAL REAL PREHISTORY of humanity. Of course, some background reading will be necessary on your part to be able to weave all the symbols into a coherent story, but it is all there. Yet millions of people walk by them every day, completely oblivious, still believing that the Pyramids were built in 3000BC, etc. The Truth Shall Set You Free.
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:11 am

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Glad you're back MAAA, looking forward to more.

I spent my early youth in Hong Kong, Kowloon. Can't wait for more.

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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 5:45 am

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Happy Valentines Maaa, yeah, I know, but still it is difficult to feel like you are sometimes the majority of one as Orwell stated in 1984. There is so much more you want us to ask, but you know me, I just dont have the right ones in this area.

I feel such strong energy from you, hurry home safetly, and consider opening up and letting it all out.

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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 6:40 am

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just curious- anybody know what this thing is?- got it from that forst link you posted;
http://www.group30.org

Global Clearing and Settlement: Final Monitoring Report
This final report presents the assessment by the Group of Thirty’s Global Monitoring Committee of developments in the clearing and settlement arena since the publication of the G30 report, Global Clearing and Settlement: A Plan of Action, in January 2003. The report identifies places where progress is being made as well as areas where little or no progress is apparent. The G30 concludes that a great deal has already been achieved, but many recommendations require further work. The report notes that the clearing and settlement objectives and goals set out only three years ago remain achievable and, in many cases, are already being progressively implemented. It underscores that the improved infrastructure that would result from full implementation of the G30 recommendations would help enhance confidence in the markets themselves and ensure that the vision of a safer, more efficient global clearing and settlement system can be brought to fruition.
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 7:42 am

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Innerflame - Happy Valentines to you as well AND Happy Chinese New Year to all my non gregorian friends! That is a very real and deep issue you bring up with the "majority of one" (im PM about this right now, in the next 15min, to not interrupt the flow of this thread and because its personal after all), something with which I am grappling, quite strongly in fact. The majority-of-one proposition must necessarily end in the deduction that there is no objective reality, hence I, and only I have dreamt everything into existence. Crazy? Maybe, but I am not a philosopher, just a MonkeySlave grown existentially tired of trying to make sense of it all and believing one day "things will fix themselves". They wont. I must fix them, we must fix them (those of you REAL people reading this forum).

In, I try to strictly adhere to finance and economics lest someone call me, or my ideas crazy. Therefore, I stick to NUMBERS and FACTS, as much as I can, so what I say can be taken seriously and to serve others as these two things have served in my own quest. When unravelling the mysteries of the financial and economic universe, we can probe and probe and probe level after level and we eventually encounter the basic definitions employed to build the discipline. Many of them are circuituous, unfounded, illusory or downright self-contradicting. What is missing is the HUMAN element (some of us call it "spiritual"). As a case in point:

Economic proposition
(Rational ROBOT reaction):

Today's debt can ALWAYS be paid off with income from tomorrow, or money printed. "Technically correct", as long as today's status quo remains in place ad infinitum.

Equivalent proposition (My real HUMAN reaction)

To pay for today's spending, it is ok to enslave our children and their children I have CRIED deeply for days (cumulative) over this. And NOTHING makes me cry.


I say all this because the "right questions" dont have to be advanced financials in order to arrive at a financial truth.


@Delaine - I have not looked in depth at the Clearing and Settlement report, so cannot opine at the moment. Will take a look at it and get back to you.
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Post Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:38 am

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MAAA wrote:Innerflame - Happy Valentines to you as well AND Happy Chinese New Year to all my non gregorian friends! That is a very real and deep issue you bring up with the "majority of one" (im PM about this right now, in the next 15min, to not interrupt the flow of this thread and because its personal after all), something with which I am grappling, quite strongly in fact. The majority-of-one proposition must necessarily end in the deduction that there is no objective reality, hence I, and only I have dreamt everything into existence. Crazy? Maybe, but I am not a philosopher, just a MonkeySlave grown existentially tired of trying to make sense of it all and believing one day "things will fix themselves". They wont. I must fix them, we must fix them (those of you REAL people reading this forum).

In, I try to strictly adhere to finance and economics lest someone call me, or my ideas crazy. Therefore, I stick to NUMBERS and FACTS, as much as I can, so what I say can be taken seriously and to serve others as these two things have served in my own quest. When unravelling the mysteries of the financial and economic universe, we can probe and probe and probe level after level and we eventually encounter the basic definitions employed to build the discipline. Many of them are circuituous, unfounded, illusory or downright self-contradicting. What is missing is the HUMAN element (some of us call it "spiritual"). As a case in point:

Economic proposition
(Rational ROBOT reaction):

Today's debt can ALWAYS be paid off with income from tomorrow, or money printed. "Technically correct", as long as today's status quo remains in place ad infinitum.

Equivalent proposition (My real HUMAN reaction)

To pay for today's spending, it is ok to enslave our children and their children I have CRIED deeply for days (cumulative) over this. And NOTHING makes me cry.


I say all this because the "right questions" dont have to be advanced financials in order to arrive at a financial truth.


@Delaine - I have not looked in depth at the Clearing and Settlement report, so cannot opine at the moment. Will take a look at it and get back to you.

Thanks It sounded ominous- i read that Mank Damnsters Banifest...
I know what you mean how you feel ( in my own way) about crying for the young'uns about the Heartlessness-Your Love goes out and serves a purpose is not wasted ...
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Post Mon Feb 15, 2010 4:46 am

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The only obligation which I have a right to assume is to do at any time what I think right. It is truly enough said that a corporation has no conscience; but a corporation on conscientious men is a corporation with a conscience. Law never made men a whit more just; and, by means of their respect for it, even the well-disposed are daily made the agents on injustice. A common and natural result of an undue respect for the law is, that you may see a file of soldiers, colonel, captain, corporal, privates, powder-monkeys, and all, marching in admirable order over hill and dale to the wars, against their wills, ay, against their common sense and consciences, which makes it very steep marching indeed, and produces a palpitation of the heart. They have no doubt that it is a damnable business in which they are concerned; they are all peaceably inclined. Now, what are they? Men at all? or small movable forts and magazines, at the service of some unscrupulous man in power? Visit the Navy Yard, and behold a marine, such a man as an American government can make, or such as it can make a man with its black arts — a mere shadow and reminiscence of humanity, a man laid out alive and standing, and already, as one may say, buried under arms with funeral accompaniment, though it may be,"Not a drum was heard, not a funeral note,
As his corse to the rampart we hurried;

Not a soldier discharged his farewell shot
O'er the grave where out hero was buried."


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Post Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:13 am

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Very nice addition innerflame- I liked that- Here's to integrity!
“Political tags -- such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth -- are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.” -- Robert A Heinlein
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Post Mon Feb 15, 2010 11:05 pm

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Delaine, thanks for the encouragement.

Innerflame, fantastic addition to the conversation. I am not surprised that you would bring Henry David into the fold, as Everything Does Indeed Happen for a Reason (EDIHR). There are very few writers, and I have read A LOT, that echo down to my soul as much as HD (Nietzsche being the only other one). I have also spent many days meditating in Walden Pond, sat in HD little beautiful cabin and have dreamt the dream that was his life. I have never done any theater in my life (do not like center stage), but the one play I did star in in high-school was "The Night Thoreau spent in jail" which has a wonderful sililoquy of his inner self. I guess, again, EDIHR and there was only one person in my whole school that could have performed that part because I understood it to the core, and I NAILED it. To bad there are no awards for high-school plays! ha
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Post Wed Feb 17, 2010 4:26 am

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:star5: Great post, and info, thank you!

This group is completely notorious, and no doubt full of coniving plans
to take our money from us.

This group is also responsible (if not singelhandedly) for the recent
proposed legislation to limit immediate availability to Money Market funds.

this-is-the-government-your-legal-right-to-redeem-your-money-market-account-has-been-denied-t3975.html

We need to watch this group on a weekly basis, and post thier activities...I am convinced they are bad to the core.
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