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What are they hiding at the South Pole?

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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:57 am

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You is going to be noticed if you even think of doing anything like that; no one supposed to know about any sht at all! Just USDA approved sht....!
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:24 am

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If they have nothing to hide, they'll let it happen - if it gets shot down it goes into Facebook/4chan/anonymous history.

I don't see why someone can't make this happen with anon/wikileaks hitting the news so much.
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:39 am

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seekingthehturt do talk to Patriotgal she knows air transportation in detail!
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:00 am

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musselwhite wrote:here are some curious facts which support hollow earth and US Patent 1096102:

By far the three most significant categories of evidence proving the validity of United States patent 1096102 are:

1) warmer climate in Polar region
2) eccentric behavior of the compass
3) the peculiar polar lights known respectively as the Aurora Borealis and, in Antarctica, the Aurora Australis


Although the brevity of this article prevents all but a cursory examination of the voluminous available evidence, there are several other categories of proof as well. These include:

4) a dramatic increase in plant and animal life at the far north, also extreme northward bird migrations at the onset of Winter
5) stones, wood, dust, pollen, and mud found both on and imbedded in ice bergs
6) anomalous radio wave behavior in polar region
7) gravitational increase measurable at the Polar Curve, sufficient to cause a significant segregation of salt water and fresh water
8) strange situation of the far north Eskimo, a people with a completely unique language and whose oral tradition states that they originated from much farther north in a warm land of perpetual daylight
9) polar sea depth and strong south-going current in the high Arctic
10) the perfectly fresh mammoths found encased in the ice

A) if, as the official government position postulates, these elephants died during a climate shift from tropical to frigid, it is logical to inquire why didn’t these shivering elephants simply ’pack their trunks’ and move south? or

B) if this alleged climate shift happened suddenly, then why aren’t these ’flash frozen’ pachyderms found alongside the inevitable ’flash frozen’ thousands of acres of forest in which they lived?

11) the peculiar chemistry and mathematics of ice bergs, enormous objects composed of fresh water and which, although there is almost no annual precipitation with which to replace them, travel by the thousands slowly southward to melt every year
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/tierr ... eca_22.htm

and the tricky magnetic variations:

1) electricity and magnetism do not move haphazardly about in enormous curtain shapes
2) the Aurora is noticeably affected by local weather changes
3) the Aurora displays a significant variety of colors, often concurrently
4) the magnetic needle functions even at the equator, but the Aurora is almost exclusively polar
5) actual electrical phenomena, such as lightening, are noisy, yet the Aurora is silent
6) particles from the Sun are mainly hydrogen, yet very little hydrogen is recorded in the spectograph’s analysis of Auroral light
7) If caused by a perpetual flow of electrons from the Sun, then why are Auroral displays sometimes present and sometimes absent?
8) the most powerful refutation is that Auroras are often experienced on-site with no affect upon the magnetic needle!
from same link


@Gulfnut55: thanks for the link and here is a little info from that link:

i want to continue from my post which centers around the patent: in 1957 the russians built a based at the tip of Lake Vostok (the size of Lake Ontario, deeper in some places and much more volumn) - here is an orbital radar map:

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2 miles of solid ice - underneath the surface the water was liquid and the temperature ranges from 50-60 degrees F - wouldn't this suggest a sub terranean heat source? what about the air-dome that covers the lake just above the surface? when the russians took core samples the samples revealed microbes, nutrients and gaes (like methane) - a new isolated eco-system? water, heat, gasses and biological activity!

the russians were planning on entering Lake Vostok by 2002.

all of a sudden the National Science Foundation suddently cancelled plans to penetrate the lake for concerns over environmental contamination? seems reasonable until you factor in what happened in february and their reaction to it.

i will have to finish this post later - too many interruptions - but this is interesting to say the least!
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:24 am

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here is another image of the lake:

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A team of scientists from Columbia University, working under the auspices of the NSF, early in 2001 began a series of unprecedented low-altitude aerial surveys over Lake Vostok, designed to chart gravitational, magnetic and thermal activity under the ice. In the course of doing so, they made a stunning find. A huge magnetic anomaly was discovered covering the entire Southeast portion of the shore of the Lake. This remarkable anomaly, which is discrepant from the background by over 1,000 nanoteslas (a significant variance, compared to daily variations in the Earth's magnetic field), could of course be caused by "natural" processes.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/antarctica.htm

can't figure out this anomaly -
There is, as always, an equally viable alternative explanation. An anomaly like this could also be caused by an accumulation of metals -- the kind you would get if you found the ruins of an ancient, buried city!
http://www.enterprisemission.com/antarctica.htm

atlantis? alien underworld? hitler thought so and one other - dr. werner von braun of NASA concurred with the serial killer!

after the Vostok magnetic anomaly JPL pulled out but in a press conference JPL spokesperson stated the NSA literally had taken over.

Several sources immediately pointed to the fact that the location of the "Vostok anomaly" is quite close to coordinates shown in the "X-Files" movie regarding the fictional location of a massive, "buried alien spacecraft." In fact, the Russian Vostok Base is the closest base of any kind to the coordinates given in the movie. (All this reminded us, of course, of our own previous suspicions about the true source of some of X-Files creator Chris Carter's story ideas ....)
http://www.enterprisemission.com/antarctica.htm

later for more!
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Post Thu Dec 16, 2010 2:53 pm

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where did Chris Carter get his information? what a silly question - we know hollywood is a vehicle for the super rich shit heads who want to take over the world - and the fact they like to stick it in our face - remember the novel "subterranean" and the discovery of a lost city under anartica.

about that same time a report came out that at the McMurdo Station a U.S. Antarctic research center located on the southern tip of Ross Island, which is New Zealand claimed. apparently in 12/00 somebody became DISORIENTED and began spreading a story of a UFO landing - a poster circulated throughout the base showing a UFO hovering over the base! - they shipped him out rather quickly back NZ.

and what about the 3 scientist who died in a 2-year period- (including a russian discoverer of a remarkable set of geometric dunes directly above the magnetic field anomoly at its strongest point.) - do you recall anything on their deaths?

what about all the medical airlifts from McMurdo? a total of 12 airlifts! disease? what disease is going to survive the anartic? protocal requires everyone is screened for body boogers so what the fuck is causing all these medical emergencies? all 12 of these people were employees of Raytheon Corporation --
Operates six businesses. key areas include defense technology and training, homeland and border security, and cybersecurity
http://www.raytheon.com/ :wtf1:

and get this the incoming doctor that replaced a ailing doctor @ the south pole was told to bring in an emergency supply of salt. gotta have salt to survive in the anartic so how come they run out of salt? but salt is also a preservative. just saying.

This whole weird scenario, the discovery of a magnetic anomaly at an isolated location, the secret digging to uncover an ancient artifact, the danger of shattering social consequences if the information is not properly contained, the concoction of an epidemic as a cover story for the secret activities around the extraction of the artifact -- is straight out of Clarke's "2001" playbook! The only real difference is the location of the artifact, Antarctica, instead of the Moon! Indeed, even the date -- 2001 -- is dead on. Anybody wonder if maybe Clarke knew something about "AMA-1" when he wrote his story more than three decades ago?

The parallels to us are striking. Remember, we have been warning all along that "2001" was Special, that a veil would begin to lift in this most crucial year .... All of us have been looking to Mars. Maybe, we should have been paying more attention to our own backyard.
http://www.enterprisemission.com/antarctica.htm

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Post Fri Dec 17, 2010 2:14 am

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Awesome posts Musselwhite. Thanks for your contributions! :star5:

Keep em coming folks!
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Post Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:35 am

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Excellent thread, and I'm glad to see the participation of so many. Very positive to see people's reactions, and encouragement.

I've long believed that there is something very different with the Earth, than what modern science is allowed to venture; that is allowed to venture outside the nice, and tidy box all must believe in, or 'else'.

The 'or else' of course is ridicule, and more importantly loosing funding via grants, and employment. Conform, and tow the line standard science, politics, and studies, or else loose respectability.

As to the Hollow Earth, I think it could be a possibility, also, many theories point out that we might be on the inside of the Earth right now, I don't know if that's what Sharpshooter was hinting at, or not, but definitely another mind warping theory.

Then again, to follow some doctrines, no stars are real, all is consciousness, and the construction of matter, or substance from the elemental spirits such as Air, Water, Fire, and Earth.

We interpret through our meat suits; we are Spirit inhabiting meat, and by extension our ability to interpret reality is flawed through these limitations. Could it be that we are on the inside of the Earth now, or that the Earth is indeed hollow? Very possible, maybe in the world of quantum physics, it's all true.

I do believe there is something to the Nazi's, and a special DNA lineage escaping into another realm; is it the hollow Earth, or a dimensional equivalent as we can interpret through our meat suits?

These are questions, I don't have answers too. Possibly, we create all aspects of our reality, but are locked down right now, and cannot fathom how to do it. In that sense, the Earth could be hollow, solid, or inside out.

There are no limitations to consciousness, combined with the manipulation of matter.

:star5: for an excellent thread :coolthumb:
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sharpshooter wrote:Course if your on the ouside trying to look in it make look like fantasy land.
There is a sculpture of sorts of the earth having a different perspective.
MW here is a question, on a clear day you go outside what do you see,what have you been trained to see and what do you call it.
i've been thinking about this question for some time now sharpshooter - i call it the sun - i always look to the skies first thing every single morning even before the sun comes up i am looking into the heavens - i wish you would explain this to me and quit being so cryptic - this old woman just can't stand it -
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Post Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:09 am

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Wow MW, fantastic posts! I know I've set your head spinning a couple times, but you've got mine spinning round and round right now. Stunning! :star5:

A few points, first, Chris Carter also created the "Lone Gunman" which featured 9/11, before 9/11 happened. He was routinely getting script ideas from the intelligence agencies, as long back as the X-Files days. Since these guys love to apparently hide shit in plain site, I wouldn't be surprised if there was far more truth than fiction in some of the X-files plots. That show was shot in Vancouver until the last couple seasons, I remember watching a lot as a kid, since I am still a kid... I was pretty young, and most of it was over my head at the time, but still intriguing.

As for the poles, wow something strange is going on. I am glad you brought up all the strange sicknesses occurring MW. I had never heard of the magnetic anomaly, and the fact that the NSA took over the situation is very telling. The NSA is probably the least understood intelligence agency of all, and just like "front men" taking the eye off the real ring leaders, the CIA, FBI, and others take the eye off of the NSA. It's a monster.

The deaths I do not think had anything to do with sickness, but were instead murders to silence the people because of what they had learned/uncovered. Death is the only way to ensure silence.

This whole thing could lead to the first stage of bluebeam, where amazing artifacts will be discovered which will cast heavy doubt upon all world religions and prime us for the grand show.

The article MW posted states that one of the possibilities is that they infact did drill into the lake, and this may have exposed the workers to foreign bacteria/microbes which overwhelmed their immune system because of their novelty. This sounds very plausible, especially when it was all Raytheon employees evacuated.

This stuff is mindboggling.
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Post Fri Dec 17, 2010 12:03 pm

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This carries on from my extensive post on the American operation - High Jump - in 1947. What were the Americans doing going to Antarctica on the other side of the world in such a hurried way with a sizable military force?

I think they were searching for the secret Nazi base in Antarctica and had orders to destroy it if possible. But they didn't reckon on what they were to come up against.

The Germans were highly advanced technologically and had been flying UFOs since about 1940 onwards. They were the first to use rocket powered jets in WWII, despite the fact that the war was lost for them by the time they used them in anger. USAF bomber formations experienced strange attacks by glowing disc-shaped craft they called 'foo fighters'. They were the first to send a rocket (the V-2) into an almost inter-continental orbit. And they were working on nuclear technology as well.

And of course both the Russians and Americans recognised their potential and in the case of the Americans, recruited as many of the German scientists as possible in Operation Paperclip.


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The Germans chose the region of Antarctica known as Queen Maud Land, an area of the continent claimed by Denmark. In blatant disregard for international law, the Nazis overflew the entire area, dropping thousands of little Swastika flags on the region with little spikes to embed them in the ice, and claimed it for Germany, renaming the region Neu Schwabenland after Swabia as it is known today, which was one of the original duchies of the German Kingdom. Swabia was home to one of the most powerful dynasties of European monarchs, The Hohenstaufen Dynasty, which ruled the Holy Roman Empire in the 12th and 13th centuries. Frederick Barbarossa was the greatest of the Hohenstaufen kings, and a wielder of the Holy Lance. It has been reported that Hitler believed he was a reincarnation of Barbarossa. He named one of his houses after him and dubbed the invasion of Russia Operation Barbarossa.

But they did more than just fly and drop flags.....

The German pilots extensively photographed the region, and reported mountain ranges in excess of 12,000 feet altitude, rocky crags projecting above the fields of ice. But most amazingly, they allegedly found ice-free ponds, heated geothermally, in which grew various unknown species of algae. They also discovered the southern tip of the fault line that runs from New Zealand, through Neu Schwabenland, and up the Atlantic Ocean, the famous Atlantic "trench". The Germans concluded that such features might indicate the presence of rocky caverns on the continent, heated geothermally, the perfect place for a hidden base in the world's most isolated, desolate, and inaccessible wilderness.

Most intriguingly, the scientists aboard the Schwabenland were not idle in analyzing the potential foodstuffs of the continent. It is known that German dieticians were commissioned to prepare tasty and nutritious meals using only what was available in Antarctica.

Emperor penguins were captured for return to Germany for study. Walruses were shot and their bodies dissected. Their bodies were tested for fat, protein, vitamin and other nutrient content. The biological findings made during this expedition would occupy German university scientists for months to come but the aim of this focus was secret .

Clearly, if these allegations are true, then the Germans were preparing for a relatively large and permanent presence on the continent.

Then, via an unusual zigzagging route between Africa and South America - itself one of the intriguing mysteries of the expedition - the Schwabenland returned to Germany, reaching port on April 10, 1939. Göring presented the expedition members with written medals and commemorations. Then, all further mention of the expedition in the German - or any other press - ceased.

So what do we have at this juncture?

Allegations from German writers of known or suspected Nazi sympathies of a continued German presence on the Antarctic continent during and after the war;
Actual suspicious U-boat activity in the South Atlantic at the end of the war;
Allegations of German research that could have been for no other purpose than establishment of a permanent German presence on the continent; Allegations of discoveries of small thermally heated ponds with unknown types of algae on the continent's interior;
Allegations of Grand Admiral Dönitz that the U-boat fleet was involved in the construction of a secret base or bases far from the Reich, one base of which was surrounded by "eternal ice";
Allegations of a last sea battle in the Atlantic prior to the German surrender, with things going surprisingly disastrously for the Allies;
An actual large postwar American military adventure to the continent within two years of the end of the war, with small accompanying international press contingents, an expedition outfitted for eight months that stayed only eight weeks.

And finally, an actual newspaper report of Admiral Byrd trying to warn America of a military threat from "enemy aircraft" flying from either pole at tremendous speed.

There is no conceivable reason, at least on the surface, for such an intense interest in the South Polar regions...

The true purpose of this expedition has never been satisfactorily explained; there is merely a series of puzzles, related reports and snippets of information that are no longer open to verification. What is not open to doubt however, is that in the decade preceding the Second World War, the Germans did almost nothing that did not put the entire structure of the country on a war footing.

This activity affected all aspects of German life; military, civilian, economic, social and foreign policies, engineering, industry etc. Given that the seizing of Neu Schwabenland occurred on the very eve of the war, it can only be concluded that that the polar expedition was of major importance and significance to the goals and development of the German nation.

Nor did activity end with the outbreak of the war... In fact, it intensified... The South Atlantic, including South Polar waters became quite active...


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The rest of the article can be found here http://ahnen.greyfalcon.us/EXPLORING%20THE%20ANTARCTIC%20REICH.htm

Also the following video, while not going into great detail about the Antarctic (this can be found in Part 2), does give the viewer an idea just what the Americans might have come up against in 1947.

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quite interesting Delaine -
In the past week alone, the Clelia II, an Antarctic cruise ship with 160 people onboard, was nearly capsized when hit by waves generated by these UFO’s emerging from the Southern Ocean, and just today the Number One Insung has been reported sunk with only 20 of its 42 member crew said saved due to the same cause.

Interesting to note in this report is its confirming our October 14th report US Shuts Down New York City Airspace Over UFO ‘Threat’ that these same Southern Ocean UFO’s were responsible for the closing of the airspace over New York City this past fall (October 13th) when they “appeared” openly and were witnessed by tens of thousands of people, and which, coincidentally, occurred during the same time frame as the mysterious Crystal Skulls of the ancient South American peoples were being exhibited there too.

Even more interesting to note is that the mysterious earthquakes being reported in the Gulf of Aden (where another “extraterrestrial” event is currently ongoing and we had reported on in our December 1st report Mysterious ‘Vortex’ Warned Is Creating Global Weather Catastrophe) are now being reported occurring in the Southern Ocean too.
from that link -

wonder if that is the reason for the telescope ICECUBE which points down into the anartic http://blogs.nature.com/news/blog/2010/ ... a_tel.html - it's an astrophysics project that looks for traces of neutrinos and "invisible" particles (my ass) from nuclear reactions of any kind.

and what do ya know the best place to get a glimpse of these "invisible" particles is at the south pole -

does this sound like a bunch of shit? it does to me - i think they are looking for something underneath the anartic -

off to see the wizzard! WHOOT!
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sharpshooter wrote:Once you figure out we are inside looking out things will be clearer....


I don't know what that guy was doing, but M-33, and M-101, are NOT "aligned", with the N-S poles, or even CLOSE!!! They are about 40degrees, N, SIXTY DEGREES, from the poles!!! Almost, a right angle!!! See how easily, computers, can play tricks, on you??? :angry03:

Sorry- wrong quote, there- it WAS, about the utube w/ the guy showing Google earth and filming it w/his handheld camera, looking at the poles, and trying to "see" thru the Earf! BTW- it was a MW post!!!! No reflection, on HER intelligence!!! :lol:
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Patriotgal wrote:Sorry- wrong quote, there- it WAS, about the utube w/ the guy showing Google earth and filming it w/his handheld camera, looking at the poles, and trying to "see" thru the Earf! BTW- it was a MW post!!!! No reflection, on HER intelligence!!! :lol:
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OK so to bring things to the present I tried to find a detailed map of Antarctica and Lake Vostok in particular and guess what? There are no detailed maps to be found online of either of these. We are living in an age when satellites can pick up images of people and even read a newspaper from space and we can't get a frigging decent image of the great Southern Continent that is Antarctica. Who the f**k are they trying to kid?? It's obvious that something very sinister is happening down there and they don't want anyone to know about it! :shifty:

There is also a 23 mile long section of something whited out right next to the Norwegian scientific base Troll. Could this be evidence of a secret base, perhaps the secret Nazi Base 211, that was built so long ago? It's in the right area after all!

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Another obviously censored area which measures about 15 miles long and 5 miles wide. I call it the Runway. :wtf1:

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And to prove my point, this is the best modern technology can come up with for the Antarctic region...
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The inspiration for this article began in the summer of 1996, when a series of email messages began to appear suggesting the possibility that “someone” or “something” was surreptitiously removing all recent maps of Antarctica. The notion was so outrageous that even die-hard conspiracy theorists found themselves having to clarify the subject—it wasn’t that Big Brother and his henchmen were ripping map pages out of every World Almanac and atlas in the country, it had merely become harder to obtain recent maps on Antarctica.

Intrigued by the electronic statements, I placed a call to Penn-Oh-West Maps in Pittsburgh to check on the availability of Antarctic projections. The storeowner’s response was startling: “Sorry, sir. All our new maps of South Pole are on back order. Must be some kind of problem with the USGS.”

The United States Geological Service, or USGS, produces the most detailed maps available, such as the 7.5-minute series topographic maps at a 1:20,000 scale. Nor is the USGS planet-bound—their expertise extends to detailed maps of the Moon, Mars, and Venus.

Reflecting on the situation, I thought that the changes on the seventh continent are so few that they hardly justify the creation of new maps. If someone desperately needed a map of the South Pole, it would suffice to resort to a National Geographic map or to the nearest Rand McNally atlas. But could the polar conspiracy theorists be onto something?

The matter of polar cartography was soon forgotten—at least for me—until in 1999, the media trumpeted news of a truly sensational discovery: a lake whose waters had never seen the light of day, at least not for millions of years, a few miles beneath the polar icecap. The new body of water was christened with the name of the Russian experimental station located immediately above it: Vostok.


The rest of the article can be found here http://greyfalcon.us/restored/Vostok.htm

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Post Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:36 pm

Re: What are they hiding at the South Pole?

A most EXCELLENT thread!!! The mind boggles, it surely does. Keep up the good work!!
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MW- Honestly, I WASN'T giving you grief!!!! The post contents, were funny, though!! I have great respect, for you!! heck, I'm buying my fist sets of overalls today, because of you!!!!! :smile:
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Post Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:37 pm

Re: What are they hiding at the South Pole?

Just like to add my support for this thread. Throwing up many questions.

One for the pot:

I seem to recall a story concerning two Antarctic explorers (they may have been women, nationality unknown). They had planned a unaided crossing (or at least some part). They got into a particular area (it might have been NeuSchwabenland) where they were promptly intercepted by U.S. personnel and evac'd to the nearest station.

I did try looking for corroboration last week but could not find anything at all (in my short search). I'm fairly certain I'm not making it up but cannot be certain whether or not it is an urban myth.

Any of you heard this story?
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Post Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:42 am

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Below is a link to a thread I did on the mystery death. Posted it about April 2009.
Murder in Antarctica (Maybe ????)

Part 1 Post

Rodney David Marks dies in unusual circumstances in Antarctica. 8 Years later New Zealand police are still being prevented from interviewing the 49 people that were possible witnesses to his death.

Why is the National Science foundation and Raytheon preventing what should be a simple investigation of Death by misadventure....

Suicide has been ruled out in the case. While the Police don't believe he drank the methanol himself?

feel there is something here not quite right....

http://www.universetoday.com/18637/astrophysicists-south-pole-death-remains-a-mystery-after-eight-years/
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10561809

In the month of May 2000, medical staff at Amundsen-Scott were confronted with a baffling problem when a distressed Rodney Marks came to them three times during a 36 hour period. On May 11th, he had felt sick and vomited blood when travelling back from the remote observatory to base. On returning, his condition took a rapid turn for the worse. Baffled by the situation, medical staff sought advice via satellite, but they were too late. On May 12th, the astrophysicist had died.


The police officer assigned to investigating the case, Detective Grant Wormald, even remarked,

“Despite numerous requests, I am not entirely satisfied that all relevant information and reports have been disclosed to the New Zealand police or the coroner.”

Dr Marks’ family have also been disappointed by the lack of communication they have received by the organizations responsible for the safety of their researchers.

“And I don’t think we are going to try to find out any more in regards to how Rodney died. I’d see that as a fruitless exercise [...] For heaven’s sake, a man has died in your care. Why wouldn’t you help the police? .” – Paul Marks, Dr Marks’ father.


I feel this quote is the most interesting.


Wormald's inquiries led to the US State Department contacting New Zealand's diplomatic arm, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, to try to find out why Wormald was being so persistent in his inquiries.


As to why the New Zealand Police are investigating read this


Jurisdiction issues in the Antarctic are complicated;[12] most American operations within Antarctica—including the South Pole base—are within the Ross Dependency territory claimed by New Zealand, from where supplies are dispatched. Without accepting New Zealand’s territorial claim, Americans have not questioned application of New Zealand law to their citizens operating in the Antarctic from Operation Deep Freeze's Christchurch base, while in accordance with the Antarctic treaty, New Zealand has not questioned the use of U.S. Marshals in relation to crimes involving only Americans in the Ross Dependency.[13]





Part 2 Post

Like I said a simple case of "Death by Misadventure". So why prevent the police from interviewing everyone. Like refusing to give names and addresses.

Why all the Cloak and Dagger for 8 years. For just Drug and alcohol abuse death.

Wormald was trying to get copies of the foundation's inquiries into Marks' death, and contact details for the 49 other people who spent winter at the South Pole that year. Letters reveal no foundation inquiries were provided to Wormald and the agency would not provide contact details for witnesses - only forwarding a questionnaire after approving the questions.



Part 3 Post


Found this on a website about Methanol and Aspartame.
http://www.holisticmed.com/aspartame/fm.html

The actual measured amount of aspartame in one liter of diet soda is approximately 600 mg. [Ref. 1].

If a 60 kg (132 lbs) woman ingested one liter of diet soda, she would be ingesting 10 mg/kg of aspartame:

600 mg aspartame / 60 kg body weight = 10 mg/kg Aspartame breaks down into 10.9% methanol by weight [Ref. 2].

So that the amount of methanol obtained from 600 mg of aspartame is:

600 mg aspartame * 10.9% = 65.4 mg of methanol


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